Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Detroit Red Wings players/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 01:43, 10 May 2009.

List of Detroit Red Wings players

 * Nominator(s): Rjd0060 (talk)

I've expanded this list to meet the FL guidelines. This is similar to already Featured lists such as List of Columbus Blue Jackets players, List of San Jose Sharks players and others. Thanks in advance. Rjd0060 (talk) 03:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Oppose Look at List of Chicago Blackhawks players as an example. List of Columbus Blue Jackets players and List of San Jose Sharks players were promoted more a year ago, so they may not exceed the current standards. Adding one more paragraph onto the lead would be nice. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 03:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was already working on this before your note. I've expanded the lead now. - Rjd0060 (talk) 04:08, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Good luck with the future comments, and no need to tell me about replying, as I always (and I mean ALWAYS!) watchlist where I comment on. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 04:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright. Thanks again. - Rjd0060 (talk) 21:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Support deletion as a Leafs fan. Is there anything you could add as a lead image, maybe Nicklas Lidstrom since he's the current captain? Also, could you add images of players to the right like what is done in List of Calgary Flames players? -- Scorpion 0422  04:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Aw, a leafs fan. ;-) I've moved Lidstrom's image to the lead and replaced it with another. As for moving the images "to the right", I'm not sure what you mean there.  Both articles look the same to me, as far as image format goes. - Rjd0060 (talk) 04:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think he's suggesting that you add MORE images to the right. If not, then I have no idea. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 04:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I somehow missed the images during my first look through. However, more would be nice since we do have images of Zetterberg, Cleary, Draper, Franzen, Kronwall, Hossa and probably several others. -- Scorpion 0422  05:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've added a few more images. - Rjd0060 (talk) 14:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Rjd, it's not bad. The article on the team is large, yet the lead here is pretty short. I wonder whether you might add a few points about the history of the team, which seems to be full of interest in their article. A featured list needs to be a bit special in terms of the lead-in you give the readers to the list. We want their interest to be peaked in some way. Can you identify, as well, a few of the more striking or interesting facts in the larger article and its siblings?
 * Idea: the Seasons column wraps the year ranges, causing the rows to be double the height. Except for 1999–2001 etc, the closing range could be reduced to two digits (as mandated by MOSNUM and as used all over the home article (1946–53). Have you thought of whipping it through Word's find and replace (find –19 and replace with –)? Most people will experience this wrapping unless they manually stretch the window.
 * I like that pale green background. Pity there are so many red links, but I guess you're gonna help with stubs ...? Tony   (talk)  08:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tony. I've fixed the numbering of the seasons as you suggested.  I've also further expanded the lead.  As for the red links, yes - I definitely plan to work on creating those. - Rjd0060 (talk) 14:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just an update in case you're interested - I've already corrected over 100 of the red links. A lot of them were just linked to alternate names or nicknames. - Rjd0060 (talk) 19:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice! Tony   (talk)  17:09, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Rambo's Revenge (talk)  17:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Images
 * File:Terry Sawchuk.jpg - You cannot use due to it being copyrighted. It wouldn't be fair-use eligible either.
 * I'm going to AGF on File:Lidstrom stanleycup2.jpg and File:Gordie Howe.jpg. Neither, seem to be copied of another website and although I am a bit concerned with the amount of image warnings the second's uploader has, the photo's scratches make me think it's an authentic digitization.
 * All other images check out fine.
 * I was waiting on correspondence regarding the Sawchuck photo but I'm not sure how long that will be, so I've removed and replaced that image. - Rjd0060 (talk) 18:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Support from KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 22:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:24, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments -
 * Fix the disambiguation link to Dale Anderson.
 * Fixed. This was caused by a user moving the article and creating a disambiguation page a few days ago. - Rjd0060 (talk) 02:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * "Thirty-five other players have been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame." This doesn't include the players who have had numbers retired, correct?
 * That's correct. I don't think that the wording implies otherwise. - Rjd0060 (talk) 02:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * "the longest post-season streak for a single team in all of major professional sports." It should be clarified here that this is in North American sports leagues.
 * I've clarified this. - Rjd0060 (talk) 02:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * "Howe was a member of a Stanley Cup-winning team four times, all with the Detroit Red Wings." Don't think Detroit is needed in this sentence; we already know where the Red Wings are from.
 * You're right. Corrected. - Rjd0060 (talk) 02:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Photos are above the tables for both goaltenders and skaters.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 02:27, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This is due to your screen resolution - it must be set at a lower level. These are formatted the exact same way as other similar (featured) lists, whose links are above.
 * Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated. - Rjd0060 (talk) 02:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Support - Looks quite good. The photo position seems like a necessary evil with these large player lists with many columns. Wish we could do something about it, but I won't hold up my support.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 23:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
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