Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Dream Theater band members/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 06:48, 6 August 2008.

List of Dream Theater band members
I have personally overhauled the list and feel it meets the FL requirements. Thank you for your comments, I will address them to the best of my ability.  Black  ngold29   04:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

One of the first things that one will notice about this list is that it does differ slightly from other band list members. To my knowlede the only other band member lists of high quality are: Nine Inch Nails, which has passed it's FL review, and Slipknot which is still in it's FLC stage. The two previous include a prose descrption (one or two sentences) about each member. Though it is usually suggested to follow the precedent of other similar lists, I made a conscious decision when creating this list to not include a similar description for various reasons. First, one will quickly notice that NIN does not have "band members" in the traditional sense. In addition to one true member, the band has toured with 18 other members for live concerts only. Obviously it would be difficult to descibe all of these people in a lead paragraph, so an explination for each was created. Slipknot's former members do not have their own articles, and it was therefore necessary to expand their descriptions as it was the only one that they have on Wikipedia. I was able to explain each member's involvement in the band in the lead and I have done so. Second, when a sports team has a List of head coaches each coach does not recieve a prose recap of his involement with the team, similarly when a band's discography is shown each album isn't given it's own prose recap, only a breif overview in the intro and it's charting statistics (if any). I have explained each member's involvement in Dream Theater in the lead of this list, to repeat the same info later seems overkill. If one would like to expand their knowledge on any member (present or former), each one has his own article which is easily accessed. This may seem long, but I felt it would help reviewers to realize that I am well aware of the traditional style of "band member lists", and these are my reasons for slightly altering that style.  Black  ngold29   13:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment on list style


 * Support - as nominator.  Black  ngold29   04:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 *  Oppose  I would read a little history of musicians, see:
 * List of Slipknot band members
 * List of Nine Inch Nails live-band members

...without much grace. Cannibaloki 04:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you be a little more specific? I helped with the Slipknot one. This list covers everything they do, I just added all the prose to the intro, no info has been omitted.  Black  ngold29   05:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

"If one would like to expand their knowledge on any member (present or former), each one has his own article which is easily accessed." I knew you would talk something... Okay, I removed my opposition because after his explanation, became redundant. Cannibaloki 14:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comments


 * Support Good work, so far all my questions were explained by the nominator. Cannibaloki  18:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Support: great band and good list. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 14:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * "Dream Theater performing at Rio de Janeiro in 2008" - presumably "in" Rio, not "at".
 * "shared similar interest" - shared, or similar, but not both.
 * "Wanting to complete the band's lineup, the threesome" -avoid repeating "the threesome".
 * Chris Collins leads to a dab page.
 * " who both grew up with Petrucci.[6][7]" - "both of whom had grown up with..."
 * "the band realized he was not the right singer for what they were looking for." - reads badly - suggest a copyedit.
 * "The band began to audition new vocalists,[10] while continuing to write music.[11] Majesty hired Charlie Dominici as their new vocalist in November of 1987.[9] The band signed with Mechanic Records and recorded their first studio album, When Dream and Day Unite in 1988" - really choppy prose.  Not meeting criterion 1 by a mile.
 * "Soon after, the band was forced to change their name due to another band named Majesty" - presumably there was a reason why the other band had precedence. This needs more detailed explanation.
 * "After the release of the album" - what album? By now I've lost the thread.
 * "year and a half," - "18 months"
 * "After flying LaBrie to practice with the band, he quickly joined." - not good reading for me.
 * "The band remained until Moore decided to " - remained what?
 * "in support of Awake; and six months" - semi colon?
 * "In 1999, Sherinian was replaced by ..." - why?
 * I have three sources that basically say, "He was let go and replaced" I assume it's kept private for whatever reason.
 * Chapman Stick should be capitalised.
 * Is there a "List" category this can be added to?
 * As far as I know there are no "List of band-members" catagories
 * The Rambling Man (talk) 16:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless otherwise noted all issues have been addressed.  Black  ngold29   18:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.