Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of French football champions/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 02:18, 11 July 2010.

List of French football champions

 * Nominator(s): Joao10Siamun (talk) 04:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it is capable of being one due to the list's importance in French football and its overall accuracy. I also believe it meets the FL criteria. Thank you. Joao10Siamun (talk) 04:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Support Sandman888 (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Took FLC down and re-posted following conclusion of peer review. Made some edits based on peer review, other than posting pictures as it is very difficult to find pictures of old French coaches and players. Will possibly do that later.Joao10Siamun (talk) 02:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment - there are no references at all for the tables, what is sourcing this info.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Posted the references for the tables. Didn't know exactly where to put them, so I added them to after the tab subject. – Joao10Siamun (talk) 12:02, 7 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Provisional Support if Rambo's issues are resolved- the referencing (the only thing I've taken a hard eye to on this one) now looks fine to me. Courcelles (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Support – Don't see any more issues, and others brought up here have been addressed.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 23:12, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. I didn't notice my comments were fixed originally; make sure you reply to comments here so that we notice in the future. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 16:17, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment I'll happily review the list as soon as outstanding comments are addressed. Just leave a note on my talkpage if I don't spot it automatically. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:52, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think outstanding concerns have been addressed. Sandman888 (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment - as pointed out above, in a sortable table, names need to be linked every time they appear, not just the first time..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:48, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Done by nom Sandman888 (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

As a regular contributor of French football here, I should express some remarks : - Third image on the right (1926-27 champions) should be CA Paris instead of CA Paris-Charenton, which is the name the club took in the 1960's if I remember well. - No AS Saint-Etienne image. That's a shame for the dominent French club of the 1970's. Maybe the picture of Georges Bereta could be used, as he was a key part of the team. - Tom me, in the "Championships by club" table, amateurs championships should be, just as the 1944-45 championship, written in a different way (italic) as they have a different "status" than professional championships and are not really recognized. For example, Marseille has officially 9 championships. However, that's a very good work. Cheers.--Latouffedisco (talk) 17:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was thinking about removing the 1944–45 season completely. Also, clubs, such as Le Havre and Marseille, who have won an amateur championship, do consider them legitimate. They might not carry the same weight as professional titles, but each club recognized them as official league titles they have won. – Joao10Siamun (talk) 00:17, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. English champions before 1920 harp on about their early titles as equal achievements to recent ones, despite the fact that at that stage clubs south of Birmingham didn't take part. I think the current system is adequate- a reader can easily tell by looking at the table how many of a club's titles were amateur or professional. WFCforLife (talk) 09:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. Right, I feel I've made a thorough review of this candidacy and am now happy to offer my support. Congratulations. Rambo's Revenge (talk)  22:54, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't like the floating reference [4] under the section title but above the table. Can you not just write an introductory sentence to attach the reference to?
 * I've got no problem with GF edits. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 20:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I'm suggesting you write some text here. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:05, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I know that, but I honestly don't see a problem with it, though, which is why I said good faith is not a problem or what would you recommend? If it violates a rule or guideline or if your support of the list depends on it, then I'm cool with that and I'll add something. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 19:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * All I'm saying is that a floating reference isn't something I'd expect to see in a professional article on Wikipedia. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand that. I guess I'll put them in the table. Is that okay? I just think having an adjoined sentence near the table would look weird. I will also note (not directly to you TRM) that this article's English and Italian counterparts, which are FLs, don't have its tables directly referenced, which is weird. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 22:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Those lists were promoted to FL status a while ago, so they not be up to current standards. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Surprised that a number of French football champions don't have their own article, or at least aren't redlinked - surely they're notable by virtue of the fact they won the French league?
 * I'll create the articles of the clubs when I have time. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 20:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Redlink those that are notable. I suggest that's all of them. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:05, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 19:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Is note 1 referenced anywhere?
 * Yes. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 20:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Where? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:05, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Whatever it is that references it, I suggest nesting the reference within the note (explained in my capped cmts or just copy what I did on the list before). Rambo's Revenge (talk)  17:35, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. The reference doesn't directly mention the switch, but it does state that changes were made following the first season. I posted the season articles from a historian site to add more inference. — Joao10Siamun (talk) 19:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


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