Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Gold Glove Award winners at outfield/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 08:08, 18 July 2009.

List of Gold Glove Award winners at outfield

 * Nominator(s): KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 22:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Well... it's been a marathon, but this monster is finally done. I hope you all enjoy reviewing it. Cheers. KV5 ( Talk  •  Phils ) 22:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments from
 * General
 * Dabs, check out fine.
 * There are 3 dead links, with the code of Soft 404.
 * I'm not sure how you are to resolved this because the links could possibly come back up, I'm not sure.-- T ru  c o   503 16:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Links should be fixed now. I inserted the wrong team code. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 17:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Lead
 * Other players who have gone whole seasons without an error include Flood (1966),[22] Clemente (1972),[9] Yastrzemski (1977), -- whole seasons? I don't know but to me its a bit wordy. Is another word available to be used? It's just IMO.
 * Could be changed to "complete seasons". Would you prefer that instead? KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 16:36, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I like that better =]-- T ru  c o   503 16:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 16:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Clemente leads all winners in assists; he had 27 in 1961,[9] and American League leader Kaline had 23 in 1958. -- Shouldn't this be --> Clemente leads all winners in assists, with 27 in 1961,[9] while American League leader Kaline had 23 in 1958. ??-- T ru  c o   503 16:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, that's an incorrect use of "while", as the events didn't happen concurrently. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 16:36, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that semicolon throws the sentence off because its not being used properly I believe: to me it reads, Clemente leads all winners in assists and he had 27 in 1961..which doesn't really read well.-- T ru  c o   503 16:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything grammatically incorrect about it. It's basically just a more efficient way of writing it without 3/4 commas in the sentence. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 16:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually believe the colon should be used here instead.-- T ru  c o   503 23:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not so. If you break it down, it's two sentences&mdash;"Clemente leads all winners in assists; he had 27 in 1961." and "American League leader Kaline had 23 in 1958." These two sentences are joined by the "comma+and" construction, which is perfectly legitimate. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 00:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Thing is, I'm looking at Colon (punctuation) the first bullet, that's how I'm looking at this sentence.-- T ru  c o   503 00:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no deductive usage here. See semicolon: "Applications of the semicolon in English include [use] between closely related independent clauses not conjoined with a co-ordinating conjunction". That is the usage here. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 00:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll take your word ;)-- T ru  c o   503 02:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues resolved clarified; list now meets WP:WIAFL.-- T ru  c o   503 02:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * I ran this article through AWB and found a couple of minor things that I fixed. Mostly relating to references. --Kumioko (talk) 04:17, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, the only thing that was changed is that one reference was broken by AWB and that it unspaced the code, making it harder to read. I've reverted it back. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I apologize if it did not function as intended but I already ran it through all the articles that appeared to need a change. With that said, it is likely that someone else will happen by and make the same change eventually so its good to find that out now. Also, the MOS states that there should not be a space between punctuation and references (except after a bracket [ or ]) so thats why I removed the spaces after the last pipe and before the references. --Kumioko (talk) 13:41, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Comment Images need alt text (discussion). Dabomb87 (talk) 02:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's an FA discussion. To be honest, I'm inclined to withdraw this nomination just for that. I'm really against this change in the criteria. Beyond that, it means I've now got 20-odd different FLs to go over and write alt text for. It may only take "20 minutes or so" to do it for one article, but that's a whole workday. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 11:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Regardless of how I feel about the criteria change, it's done now. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, the alt text thing has always been in the FL criteria, it's just that nobody bothered enforcing it or even knew what it was. Sorry Dabomb87 (talk) 13:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. I'm taking little chunks out of my workday to update alt text for all of the FLs on my watchlist and hope to have them all in line with this criterion by the end of the upcoming weekend. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 13:29, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Support – My only suggestion is to move the double play link to where "doubled up" is used. Other than that, another good one in this series.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 21:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm actually going to link it here, because it's more of a specialized term. Thanks for catching that. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 22:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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