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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 06:02, 31 July 2009.

List of Grade I listed buildings in South Somerset

 * Nominator(s): &mdash; Rod talk 17:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating List of Grade I listed buildings in South Somerset for featured list because I believe it meets the FL criteria. It is the latest in a series (see List of Grade I listed buildings in Somerset) and largely follows the format of List of Grade I listed buildings in Mendip, the most recently promoted to FL. &mdash; Rod talk 17:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The toolbox reveals a couple dead links (external link checker). Dabomb87 (talk) 19:37, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Response - South Somerset Council is showing an internal server error - this was fine a couple of days ago & I think is temporary over the weekend - I'll check again on Monday.&mdash; Rod talk 19:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Response2 - I don't know what happened to their server yesterday but all now showing as OK.&mdash; Rod talk 08:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments from
 * Lead
 * This is a huge lead, wow.
 * The Ham stone Stoke sub Hamdon Priory is a 14th-century former priests house of the chantry chapel of St Nicholas,[7] which after 1518 become a farm, known as Parsonage Farmhouse. -- is priests suppose to be plural?
 * Since the Reformation the 13th-century Hanging Chapel in Langport, has been a town hall,[9] courthouse,[10] grammar school,[11] museum,[10] and armoury,[12] before becoming a masonic hall in 1891.[ -- 1)Comma after the Reformation 2)Remove the comma after Langport and after armoury
 * The 140-foot (43 m) Burton Pynsent Monument was designed in 1757,[18] by Capability Brown for William Pitt, as a monument to Sir William Pynsent. -- Remove the comma after 1757 and after William Pitt
 * The commas are correct here, as they set off a nonessential clause. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * King Alfred's Tower, a 161 feet (49 m) high, triangular edifice, stands near to Egbert's stone, where it is believed that Alfred the Great, King of Wessex, rallied the Saxons in May 878 before the Battle of Ethandun.
 * Lytes Cary and its associated chapel and gardens, has parts dating to the 14th century, with other sections dating to the 15th, 16th, 18th, and 20th centuries; -- Remove the comma after gardens
 * Ven House, which stands on an artificially raised terrace, has a rectangular plan of 7 bays by 5 bays, and is built of red brick in Flemish bond, with local Ham stone dressings; its north and south fronts are divided by two giant Corinthian pilasters, -- The final comma should be a period.
 * The small William and Mary style[29] house, was completed in 1698–1700, and was enlarged between 1725–30 by Decimus Burton, who provided a new drawing-room for Sir W. Medleycott and an orangery. -- Remove the comma before was completed and before and was englarged
 * Images
 * Some of the images have captions which need to have their periods removed because they are not complete sentences.
 * Sexey's Hospital which was built around 1630 as almshouses. -- also add a comma before which
 * Barrington Court which was built in the 16th century and was the first house acquired by the National Trust, in 1907 soon after its formation. -- add a comma before which
 * Notes
 * Note 1: Add an a before significant-- T ru  c o   503 19:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Dabs and external links check out fine.-- T ru  c o   503 19:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Response - Thanks, I think some of these had been dealt with by Dabomb87 or by my previous edit, but I think I've got the rest now. I'm not sure an "a" is needed before significant in Note 1.&mdash; Rod talk 20:18, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fine.-- T ru  c o   503 02:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues resolved/clarified; list now meets WP:WIAFL.-- T ru  c o   503 02:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Note from Hassocks: I will provide a review when I get home tonight. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!)  11:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC) Done, as below. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!)  20:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Support from Bencherlite with a few minor provisos:
 * "The house known as the The Abbey" – too many "the"s!
 * Several "the"s removed


 * As the source says, Barrington Court was the first country house, not the first house, to be acquired by the National Trust, so the image caption is slightly misleading.
 * Changed to country house


 * Consider saying "The architectural historian Nikolaus Pevsner" instead of just "Nikolaus Pevsner", to provide extra context.
 * Done

I also wonder whether the first and second paragraphs could be joined, also the fourth and fifth; WP:LEAD does suggest four paragraphs as a maximum. Otherwise, excellent work once again. BencherliteTalk 13:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Response - minor changes above made - the first 2 paragraphs are about different topics but I've combined the later ones into one (large) paragraph - It was at FLC on a previous nomination that I was asked to expand the lead as not enough info was provided!. Thanks for the helpful comments.&mdash; Rod talk 14:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments Support from Hassocks5489


 * As with previous Somerset lists, it's looking good, and there is very little more needed. To ensure I'm just reviewing this list on its merits against the criteria, I haven't looked back at them.

Pics


 * Just a personal preference. The most striking picture (of a good selection) is King Alfred's Tower.  Could it be moved to the top?  Much as I like church pics (I spend much time photographing them down my way!), the unique nature of the tower would make it a great lead image.
 * The pics are currently in date order (oldest to newest), but I'm happy to change this if this is consensus.

Prose


 * In the sentence beginning "Most are Norman- or medieval-era churches...", the commas are having to work too hard (does that make sense?!). Demarcating the clause "a collection of distinctive, mostly spireless Gothic church towers" with dashes would make the sentence easier to follow.
 * Done (but I've probably used the wrong dashes)


 * Comma is probably not needed in "which after 1518 become a farm, known as Parsonage Farmhouse".
 * Done


 * A whoopsie in the third paragraph: "Yoevil".
 * Done


 * "It was intended by its funder, Henry Hoare, to commemorate...": passive voice, and slightly awkward. Perhaps try "Its funder, Henry Hoare, planned for it to/intended that it commemorate..." (not sure of the best wording; various options there).
 * Done


 * Re. Bencherlite's comment about Barrington House: although the image caption has been corrected, the text in paragraph 3 of the lead still says "the first house".
 * Done


 * "Lytes Cary and its associated chapel and gardens has parts...": "has" → "have" sounds better to me, but I'm not sure.
 * Done (but I'm never sure about that one})


 * Wikilinks to Bay (architecture) and Decimus Burton would add value in paragraph 3.
 * Done


 * "1725 and 30" → "1725 and 1730".
 * Done


 * ...who provided a new drawing-room for Sir W. Medleycott and an orangery": reminds me of the ancient joke, "So I leant out of the window in my pyjamas – which is a strange place to have a window..." :) Can the sentence be reorganised a bit?  I appreciate that Sir Medleycott didn't have both things built for him, so it might make it a bit more complex.
 * Done - I'm sure that joke was in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang & takes me back to my youth.

Table itself


 * Everything looks great!

Notes, captions etc.


 * Current ref [7]: typo ("Somrset").
 * Done


 * Current ref [98]: missing comma before "Shepton Beauchamp" (for consistency).
 * Done


 * Current note 5: I'd prefer "Street" in full.
 * Done


 * In current notes 8 and 10, directions such as "north east" would probably be better as one word.
 * MOS Directions and regions is not clear on this


 * In the picture caption for St John the Evangelist in Milborne Port, add "The" at the start of the sentence.
 * Done

Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!)  18:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Response - thanks agin for helpful & detailed comments - most dealt with as set out above.&mdash; Rod talk 19:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

All of my comments have been satisfied, noting the point about MOS inconsistency over "north east" v "northeast" etc. I changed the dashes to unspaced em dashes, although spaced en dashes are fine as well. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!)  20:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Support good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:03, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


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