Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Grand Rapids Griffins players/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 22:54, 6 June 2009.

List of Grand Rapids Griffins players

 * Nominator(s): Zeagler (talk) 01:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Churned this out in a week, following along with List of Chicago Blackhawks players and List of Detroit Red Wings players and their FLCs. Zeagler (talk) 01:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment – The disambiguation link-checker indicates two dabs that need to be fixed.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 23:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed. —Zeagler (talk) 23:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The first general ref needs  added to it.
 * The Grand Rapids Press citations should be formatted consistently. Either all cites have the publisher info, or none. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:25, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it's sufficient to give full details in the first instance only. Is there some guideline I missed?  Other item addressed. —Zeagler (talk) 22:35, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No big deal. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support, and for taking the time to review. —Zeagler (talk) 14:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Review by 
 * Lead
 * 'Ninety-eight Griffins have gone on to play in the National Hockey League (NHL);[a] forty-nine of them made their NHL debut after skating for Grand Rapids.' -- 'Ninety-eight Griffins' is not proper grammar, because you should refer to them as players. For example, you wouldn't call Berlin Thunder players Ninety-eight Thunders
 * Okay, maybe the real question here is whether it is proper grammar to refer to them as just 'Griffins' and not Griffins players
 * That's what makes Thunder and Lightning and Avalanche, etc., lame team names. ;) I think referring to them as Griffins is fine, but I added "players" anyway...it does keep it in line with the list title... —Zeagler (talk) 22:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just went back and fixed a few more instances of this, and now I'm not so sure I like how it reads. What do you think? —Zeagler (talk) 23:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Me neither, but if you can show me a reliable source that shows that just calling them 'Griffins' is proper, than you can just use that. For now, you can use just players and Grand Rapids to replace some of the instances of 'Griffins players', like Grand Rapids alumnus, or Ninety-eight players.-- T ru  c o   23:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The current Griffins beat writer for the Grand Rapids Press does it here. —Zeagler (talk) 23:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Well then I will say its fine to use that as well, just don't use Griffins in every instance.-- T ru  c o   15:41, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Tweaked. —Zeagler (talk) 16:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Notes
 * 'Overtime losses occurring in the AHL before the 2004–05 season are worth zero points and instead counted in the "losses" column.' -- You need to add an are before 'instead counted'
 * 'During the 2007–08 season the Griffins rotated the captaincy among Mark Cullen, Ryan Oulahen and Garrett Stafford on a five-game basis.' -- Comma after 'season'-- T ru  c o   22:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Both items addressed. —Zeagler (talk) 22:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues resolved/clarified; meets WP:WIAFL.-- T ru  c o   16:35, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your help, Truco. —Zeagler (talk) 16:42, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Support – Spotted no problems when I went through it. Why can't all reviews be this easy?  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 17:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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