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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC).

List of Interstate Highways in Washington

 * Nominator(s):  Sounder Bruce  11:06, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

This list covers the seven Interstate Highways in the U.S. state of Washington, which cost a whopping $4.5 billion to construct ($8.3 billion today) and transport hundreds of thousands of people everyday. I have completely overhauled this one over the past few days, based on the existing FL for Michigan, and think it meets the FL criteria. I'm hoping to have this as the main article in a good topic on these Interstates soon, as a few have already been promoted.  Sounder Bruce  11:06, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Support – After multiple readings of the article, the only issue I found is that the Vantage Bridge image lacks alt text, but I'm sure you'll fix that and won't wait to support over that one issue. Nice work! RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:47, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. Fixed it now.  Sounder Bruce  04:10, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Drive-by comment
 * I notice that this article is in Category:Lists of roads in Washington (state), which has the disambiguator in its name (presumably to distinguish it from Washington DC) but none of the individual articles have it. Don't know if this is an issue, but I just wondered about the inconsistency...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:10, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * As Washington, D.C. is not a state (for now), it would not have state routes/highways, which eliminates a good number of entries. I think that moving the Interstate and U.S. lists would be a good idea, but I will need to check the naming guidelines first.  Sounder Bruce  10:32, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * "It comprises" - previous sentence only talks of the roads in the plural and then suddenly we have the singular "it"...?
 * Changed to "The system"
 * "three primary Interstates and four auxiliary routes that serve most of the state's major cities" - pedantically, is it only the four that serve cities or all seven? Could maybe do with a tiny re-wording to remove this slight ambiguity
 * Added a semicolon.
 * "The general plan and federal funding for the Interstate Highway System was approved" => were approved (the subject of the sentence covers two distinct things)
 * Fixed.
 * "It incorporated elements" - what's the "it" here? The plan?
 * Fixed.
 * "was never submitted for formal approved" - "formal approval", surely?
 * Fixed.
 * " A second bill in 1951 authorized the construction [....] and was expanded" - the bill was expanded.....?
 * Added "the program"
 * "and a series of lids in Seattle and Mercer Island" - what's a lid in this context?
 * Added link to freeway lid
 * "The state government had never formally applied for its addition to the Interstate Highway system" => "The state government has never formally applied for its addition to the Interstate Highway system"
 * Fixed.
 * That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:49, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments. I've fixed everything you've brought up, and am preparing to move the page (and its siblings), though I also want to make sure it doesn't screw up the nomination templates here.  Sounder Bruce  02:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - the title isn't a big deal, I was just curious..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:32, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

 * Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. The tables here are generated via template, so I edited the template to add an optional |caption parameter. Visual captions can be added by putting in the routelist top template; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting  instead. -- Pres  N  15:17, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding that parameter to the template. I've added it to the list.  Sounder Bruce  22:04, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Image review — Pass
ALT text is fine, good! All the images are appropriately licenced. Nominator deserves credit not only for nominating this list, but also for uploading few of the images themselves! Pass for image review. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:53, 7 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment
 * A list of Interstate business routes still needs to be added. I-5 and I-90 have business routes within the state. Once it's in there and the table is completely filled out with enough references then this list may be nominated for sure. Dylpickle2k (talk) 02:10, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
 * WSDOT does not maintain the business routes and generally does not acknowledge their existence. Any attempt to add them to the list would be original research.  Sounder Bruce  09:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Comments Support from TRM
Sorry, interrupted. More soon. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:18, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Is List of auxiliary Interstate Highways a suitable link for "auxiliary route"?
 * Added.
 * "from the Oregon state" link Oregon.
 * Done.
 * Also consider "state line" linkage, that's not a universal concept.
 * Linked to border, since there doesn't seem to be a better link.
 * "e Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. " our own article doesn't hyphenate Federal-Aid, why here?
 * The official statute, FHWA, and National Archives all use the hyphenated version. I've proposed a page move to correct this.
 * Consider linking tollway.
 * Done.
 * "Business Loops"/"Business Spurs" in the infobox, We Are Not German, no need to capitalise everything, so "Business loops/spurs" would be fine. And that probably impacts the template, but it should be fixed.
 * These designations are fully capitalized in names, like "State Routes" and "Interstate Highways" are.
 * "764.27" doesn't appear in ref 1.
 * This figure is calculated by adding up all the Interstate entries in the table. I have replaced it with a mathematical expression with the ParserFunctions extension to make it easier to verify.
 * In the infobox, it says "Former PSH", but nowhere can I see what a PSH is?
 * Made a request for that to be changed to "Pre-1964", but the template is in a protected module.
 * "full grade separation" what's that?
 * Linked.
 * Would link "interchange" because that's not a commonly used term where I'm from.
 * It's common in American English, but I'll link it.
 * And "shoulders" is jargon.
 * "Shoulder" is commonly used in American English (e.g. in newspaper headlines and image captions) and even referred to on plenty of road signs. Linked as well.
 * "originating in Seattle to connect" overlinked.
 * Don't believe it qualifies as overlinked, as this is the first occurrence after the lead.
 * No, it's linked in the Description section. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:37, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * "the Northern states" what are they?
 * Linked to Northern Tier (United States), which is the closest definition I can find. Would prefer not to list out all 13 states here.
 * "in Downtown Seattle, which" overlinked.
 * Again, first occurrence after the lead.
 * No, it's linked in the Description section. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:37, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * "the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1944." interesting, this one DOES link to a hyphenated act. Why the discrepancy?
 * The hyphen is correct in this case.
 * "limited-access highways" what are those?
 * Linked to Limited-access road.
 * "to British Columbia as" link.
 * Linked.
 * Link "trunk".
 * Linked.


 * Also consider linking "bypass".
 * Linked.
 * " to Tacoma and" overlinked.
 * Removed.
 * Consider linking spur route.
 * Linked.
 * "by a spur route.[40] The spur route" repetitive.
 * Replaced.
 * "was approved in 1969 and opened in 1986" 17 years? Why??
 * Added a short explanation. Many of the later Interstate projects nationally took decades to build.
 * What's a "beltway"?
 * Linked.
 * "due to opposition" public? political?
 * Added groups.
 * "near Yakima" overlinked.
 * "crossing the Columbia River on" overlinked.
 * " the Columbia River on the Glenn L. Jackson Memorial Bridge" overlinked x2.
 * MOS:DUPLINK states that repetition in captions is acceptable.
 * Ref 4: pp. 330–9, 330–12. odd page range, why not just pp. 330–312?
 * These are actually a set of two page numbers that are each prefixed with the chapter number (a common problem with government documents). They're supposed to render as 330-9, but hyphen makes it appear closer to an ndash. Within the PDF, they are pages 167 and 170.

That's it for a first pass. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:41, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for picking up this one for review. I've replied to all of your points.  Sounder Bruce  00:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Couple of replies up there. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:37, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Whoops, I missed them. Both have been unlinked.  Sounder Bruce  10:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Support all my issues addressed, cheers. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:34, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. -- Pres N  14:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


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