Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Men's World Ice Hockey Championship players for Canada (1977–present)/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 01:50, 24 August 2009.

List of Men's World Ice Hockey Championship players for Canada (1977–present)

 * Nominator(s): Scorpion 0422  00:08, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm back, with my first FLC in a while (Yay). So, to address an important question: Why 1977?


 * 1) The current list is 122,254 bytes and has over 450 items. To do the entire history, that list would at least be doubled, so a split is needed.
 * 2) If one could divide the entire World Championships into two eras, 1977 would be ideal because 1920-1976 is the amateur/Olympic era and 1977-present is the open era (meaning, professional players are allowed). I suppose some potential other splits are 1962-present (the era when Canada started using a national team), but the former is less POV and applies to the World Championships as a whole.
 * 3) One less important reason is that Hockey Canada only keeps track of stats for what it calls the "modern era" (1977-present).

I largely followed the format of the List of Olympic men's ice hockey players for Canada, although there are some changes such as having columns for total medals because since many have won numerous medals, it makes sorting easier. In the Olympics column, I decided to list every year (rather than using dashes) for ctrl-F purposes. Enjoy. -- Scorpion 0422  00:08, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Comments from --  SRE.K.A.L. 24 [c]

I fixed the column, added a note for Esposito, and defined what "skaters" are. I tried sorting the skaters table and I didn't see any names out of place. Could you specify some? -- Scorpion 0422  21:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "..., including two-time NHL MVP Phil Esposito." Why mention only him? I suggest you mention that he was the team captain.
 * This was copied from the Ice Hockey World Championships page. The reason he is mentioned is because Esposito was one of the biggest stars in the NHL at the time and the only former MVP to participate that year, so I felt it was worth noting.
 * Mentioning him as the team captian for the first team of the modern era would be nice. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  20:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Many of the players on the Canadian team were not prepared for the tournament and were unfamiliar with the international game and the team finished fourth." Two and's in the sentence.
 * Split into the sentences.
 * "..., sending 57 goaltenders and 422 skaters" For people who are not familiar with ice hockey, they will maybe get confused of what a skater is.
 * "Dany Heatley and Shane Doan have both..." --> "Dany Heatley and Shane Doan have each..."
 * Done.
 * "Twenty-five players have been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame, two into the IIHF Hall of Fame and thirteen into Canada's Sports Hall of Fame." Could mention that Gretzky and Lemeiux has been inducted in all three.
 * When I sorted the names on the "Skaters" section, I saw some that were out of place.
 * It's a big table, any specifics?
 * If you sort the table, you'll see which ones are not sorted properly. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  20:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Heatley, who has scored 38 goals and registered 62 points over two tournaments,..." over two tournaments? The table says six.
 * Human error. Fixed.
 * "Ryan Smyth has played for seven teams and captained five (from 2001 to 2005),[8] more than any other player since 1977,..." clarify that he has the most for both the most teams played in, and the most captained, instead of just the captained part.
 * Done.
 * IMO, "No." isn't really a good abbreviation for that column. I suggest "WCs", or merge it with the "Years" column.
 * Done (former).
 * If you look at the table, you'll see that you accidentally switched the column names "WCs" and "Years". Laugh out loud. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  20:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I noticed that Hockey Canada isn't mentioned anywhere in the prose. They are the ones who send out the teams to the IIHF WCs.
 * When you sort the Skaters column by player (click the button once), you have several out of order names before the "As" start. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, Dabomb. :D. Also, what about the other comments? --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  05:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried that and I don't see anything like that (perhaps it's in the browsers - I use Explorer). I'll also add a note about Lemieux and Gretzky. -- Scorpion 0422  16:51, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed the sorting myself. You still haven't replied to the two other comments I suggested. It would be nice if you do. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  20:50, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, per WP:HOCKEY, they do not allot accents to appear on the players' names. I don't know why, but that's what one user told me. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  20:57, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That is just on articles for North American leagues. The World Championships are international, so diacritics are used here. I don't really have a lot of time these days, so I won't have a chance any time soon to create pages for the redlinks, but I'll see what I can do. I have added a mention of Hockey Canada to the lead. -- Scorpion 0422  21:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Twenty-five players have been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame, two into the IIHF Hall of Fame and thirteen into Canada's Sports Hall of Fame. Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux are the only players to be inducted into all three." Gretzky and Lemieux are the only IIHFHOFs, so it would be nicer if you could somehow merge those two sentences. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  03:45, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Scorpion 0422  00:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

--  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  20:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Would be nice if you create articles for the red-links, and non-links.
 * Hope this list will be featured by August 31. :D
 * THanks for the review. -- Scorpion 0422  20:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll support once another reviewer reviews this nomination. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  02:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Support What Giants2008 said. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  03:17, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Note FLC is currently short of reviewers; please consider reviewing one or more on the nomination list if you have not already (this message is being posted to all running FLCs). Dabomb87 (talk) 23:20, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Support – Another high-quality Scorpion hockey list.  Giants2008  ( 17–14 ) 23:09, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


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