Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Minnesota state symbols/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Hahc21 03:45, 9 March 2014.

List of Minnesota state symbols

 * Nominator(s):  Ruby  2010/  2013  04:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because, well, I believe it meets the criteria. I've modeled this largely after the featured Oregon list. It is a rather short one (with only 18 entries), so hopefully it won't take long to review. I see a large backlog on this page and will be happy to help clear some of it by jumping into reviewing tomorrow. Any comments here are much appreciated.  Ruby  2010/  2013  04:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * Have to say I'm surprised ice hockey, and not professional wresting, is the state sport. Jesse Ventura missed a trick here.
 * I was hoping you guys across the pond would remain unaware of that particular piece Minnesotan of history. :/ Governor indeed...  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't sound too ashamed—as I see it he's the only politician in history to be honest about his intention to "win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat". GRAPPLE   X  12:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * With no article to explain it, it might be worth adding a little bit about lester soil. With the image being so tall you could add a line in the description without the table growing any. Just something along the lines of "Lester is a [dense/loose] [loamy/sandy/silty] soil present in approximately sixteen Minnesota counties", or however it actually is.
 * Agree, have added more about Lester.  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * " the "Gopher State", which is inspired from an early political cartoon" -> inspired by. You take inspiration from, but are inspired by.
 * Agree, have fixed to "by".  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "the most northern state excepting Alaska" -> might flow better as "the most northern of the contiguous United States" (I find that "the most within a defined scope" reads better "the most overall, bar X")
 * Agree, have used your suggested language.  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The unsuccessful proposals—some of these seem a bit frivolous (not that official soils and muffins aren't...), if there's any particular quirk behind the proposals it might be worth noting (I imagine the Tilt-a-Whirl one may have been a promotional stunt, for example). It's not major but it would help address Rambler's last point about helping the lead and text differ a little more strongly.
 * Yes, many do seem rather frivolous! I've sought to explain wherever possible the significance of particular proposals (unsuccessful and successful), but see that I failed to do so for the vaunted Tilt-a-Whirl. I have now added some more information on it to clarify why it was proposed. If I did the same for the animals, it would make the section rather bloated.  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * On a similar note; given the state motto and sport, maybe a mention of the North Stars hockey team taking their name would help too.
 * Good idea, have added a blurb on this.  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure I'm keen on centred text in the description cells; totally an aesthetic opinion.
 * Per your suggestion I previewed those cells with the left alignment, but unfortunately they looked odd when the others were centered. I've decided to leave as is.  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "as a signal to the state's dairy industry that Minnesota cares about them" -> wouldn't an industry be an "it"? Could be phrased as "workers in the state's dairy industry" instead to keep the plural.
 * Agree, have changed to "it".  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "In 1904 and 1905, Minnesota's state song was written" -> Written in two stages, or should this be phrased as a range?
 * The source indicates it is a range. I've changed the wording to say "from 1904 to 1905".  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's all I can really see. GRAPPLE   X  18:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for reviewing! Please let me know if there's anything else.  Ruby  2010/  2013  02:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Changes look good to me. Happy to support this one. GRAPPLE   X  12:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Support: (having stumbled here from my FLC discussion page). Quite well sourced and great structure. Most educational. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:25, 25 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Question: State of Minnesota is linked in many of the refs. Should it perhaps only be linked in its first appearance in the reflist? I may be ignorant of relevant policy with this question; excuse me if that's the case. Bob Amnertiopsis ∴ChatMe! 18:48, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I think this is usually up to editor preference. IMO, it would look a bit odd to only include one link to State of MN but link all mentions of the Star Trib. I've always sought to link all my citations in my articles for consistency's sake (especially if the references list is rather long). Thanks,  Ruby  2010/  2013  20:30, 28 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reviewing! Let me know if there's anything else.  Ruby  2010/  2013  19:39, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. Thanks for the fast response, everything now looks great. Dana boomer (talk) 17:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Support - tried to find something to nitpick about, but I got nothing. Consider archiving your online references with a site like webcitation.org or web.archive.org so that if the referenced websites change or go down, the list isn't affected. -- Pres N  06:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the support. I've archived the two State of MN links that I use the most; most of the others are from Highbeam, which I imagines takes enough care of their links.  Ruby  2010/  2013  03:56, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Congrats on a quality list! (I've not looked closely enough to cast a vote, but at first glance it looks great. Just dropping in having come across the list by chance.) -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:37, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for creating it to begin with! I'm just happy to have (hopefully) gotten it to where it needs to be.  Ruby  2010/  2013  03:56, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


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