Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of National Hockey League players from the United Kingdom/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 20:59, 8 March 2012.

List of National Hockey League players from the United Kingdom

 * Nominator(s):  Harrias  talk 17:01, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets the FL criteria, and (I think anyway) is an interesting list on something that I had wondered about for a while. It is loosely based on the current FLs List of Major League Baseball players from Australia and List of Major League Baseball players from Puerto Rico, but not too closely. As always, all comments and suggestions are appreciated. I should also point out that I am taking part in the WikiCup, so this nomination is tied into that. (For what difference that makes?)  Harrias  talk 17:01, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you might want to go through the list of all the NHL players as I am pretty sure you have missed a number. Sid Finney is the first one that I noticed that was missing. The list just seems very short as there were a lot of people from the UK who played in the NHL in the early years. -DJSasso (talk) 19:20, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've gone through the list of players from England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland and the United Kingdom on the Legends of Hockey website, as well as the Hockey-Reference lists, and Finney is the only other player I can confirm is from the UK. Two others, Bobby Kirk and Jack Riley are listed as being from places that I can not find on Google to confirm if they are Southern or Northern Ireland, and thus are not verifiable. Browsing around prior to nominating this list, I found a lot of UK-born players appeared in the NHA and other pre-NHL leagues, but this number of players seems to be about right for the NHL: unless you can add anything else?  Harrias  talk 20:46, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Nope I trust you. Just wanted to point out that I saw one so was concerned there might be others. Good work on the list. I will leave it to others to review more thoroughly for other featured criteria. -DJSasso (talk) 20:48, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing that: I'll have to do some more research into that pair to try and pin down where they are from!  Harrias  talk 20:50, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Support, provided a few fixes are made:
 * "The modern form of ice hockey is generally considered to have began in the mid-19th century, when a group of Englishmen from the Royal Canadian Rifle Regiment played a game in Kingston, Ontario.[2]" - I'd suggest just removing the whole sentence, as it is uncertain where and when ice hockey originated. The first part of the sentence is sort of alright, the last part just don't make sense... it implies that regiment created the game.
 * I've seen this from a fair few sources: the consensus seems to agree that this was probably the first game played with a puck. Should I state more specifically that is what I mean?  Harrias  talk 17:34, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * But looking around now, I agree that there is a lot of variation. I'll look at whether I should cut this entirely or just "soften" it a bit.  Harrias  talk 17:43, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * How does it sound now?  Harrias  talk 11:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "In the United Kingdom, a five team league was established in 1903" - what was the name of the league? It might be a good link, even if it is still red.
 * At the moment I don't know, but I am trying to find that out!  Harrias  talk 17:34, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it makes more sense to put the pink highlighting of a Hall of Famer over his entire row, and not only the name. This is just a stylistic concern, as in "it look weird to me". If you think it's fine, ignore this comment.
 * Done. If anyone else particularly objects I can undo it again, but I'm not over bothered either way.  Harrias  talk 17:36, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The article is orphaned as of my review; I'm going to add links on the player pages, but other links could be useful, too.
 * Yeah, I need to look at that!  Harrias  talk 17:34, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

 Maxim (talk)  16:53, 7 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Support – Meets FL standards. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 22:03, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Support NapHit (talk) 23:07, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Support pending resolution of the image concerns below. After further consideration, I believe this format meets WP:FLCR. –Grondemar 00:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

 Good raise  03:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Image review
 * File:Jhall.jpg does not yet state under what license it can be used in the US. Also, it could use some clean-up.
 * File:Charlie Gardiner.jpg's source link appears to be broken. (Fixing optional.)
 * File:Steve Thomas by Djuradj Vujcic.jpg provides invalid information for source. Removed from the article.  Good  raise  21:48, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Daniel Taylor.jpg provides invalid information for date, source and author. Overlooked something here.  Good  raise  14:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed the first two for the nom. But the second two I don't actually agree that they are incorrect. The authors are mentioned and the information is correct. It is laid out in the normal manner for images on commons that have been transferred there from en. -DJSasso (talk) 12:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:IUP is part of WP:WIAFL. What commons wants is irrelevant to us, here at FLC. The first still does not state under what license it can be used in the US. The third refers to an "original", but doesn't name it.  Good raise  14:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The first one actually does, anything that qualifies for PD-Canada that was taken prior to 1996 is public domain in the United States. Being that the subject of this article died in 1919 the picture had to be taken prior to 1949 as required. However I have added a redundant tag. -DJSasso (talk) 14:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The first image has now been replaced with the same image from the commons, and I have left a message on the talk page of the user who uploaded the third image in the first place.  Harrias  talk 17:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Revisited. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Good raise  20:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It is well possible that User:Tempo21 is copyright holder of said "original". If so, it would be enough to exchange "Cropped from original" with "Own work". <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;"> Good raise  21:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've removed the Thomas image for the time being, given the possible copyright concerns.  Harrias  <sup style="color:#009900;">talk 07:39, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


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