Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Navy Midshipmen head football coaches/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Giants2008 21:29, 9 March 2014.

List of Navy Midshipmen head football coaches

 * Nominator(s): Awardgive. Help out with Project Fillmore County 09:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I present to your waiting eyes: a list of every head coach of the Navy Midshipmen. Under different management 39 times since beginning in 1879, Navy is my favorite college team, and this list is my first attempt at getting an important Navy football article to featured status. Thanks, Awardgive. Help out with Project Fillmore County 09:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Comment
 * This page has no categories, pretty sure that might be needed. --Lightlowemon (talk) 13:01, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I pretty much completely forgot about that. Added appropriate categories now. Thanks, - Awardgive. Help out with Project Fillmore County 20:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Comments
 * Article needs to comply with WP:DASH e.g. year ranges need an en-dash, not a hyphen.
 * Fixed.


 * Per WP:YEAR you don't need to repeat the century if it's the same within a range.
 * Fixed.


 * Image caption is a complete sentence so needs a period.
 * Fixed.


 * Check MOS:NUM, usually numbers below 10 are written as words.
 * Fixed.


 * MOS:DTT for screen readers needs col and row scopes to be implemented.
 * Unfortunately, I don't understand what you mean.
 * This is an example of adding the col scopes. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The N/As and Int need to be forced to sort in the correct order when sorting by the hash.
 * Corrected.


 * Avoid hash for "number" per WP:HASH.
 * This is standard for these kind of lists (ex. List of Washington & Jefferson Presidents head football coaches).


 * George Welsh and Paul Johnson are dab links.
 * Fixed.


 * ""X" indicates an interim year without play." not seeing this anywhere.
 * Removed.


 * Doubt you need Category:Navy Midshipmen football as Category:Navy Midshipmen football coaches is more refined.
 * Removed.

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I have addressed all but issue #5, which I, if possible, require a better explanation for. Thanks for the review, - Awardgive. Help out with Project Fillmore County 22:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Comment (having stumbled here from my FLC discussion page). The list page is well referenced, but a few minor issues: (1) The titles of Notes and Footnotes should be swapped. Notes are for citations, and Footnotes are for general comments about things in the article. (2) I'd like to see responses by to the recommendations by, above. (3) Paragraphs two and three of the WP:LEAD sect are quite short, these should probably be merged together to just have three total paragraphs in the lede intro sect. (4) There's room in the page for a couple more free-use images. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 12:47, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I have attempted to address all of your concerns (save the one complication from 's review). Thanks for the review, - Awardgive. Help out with Project Fillmore County 22:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Support. Thanks for being so responsive to my suggestions, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 11:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Comments I know very little about football which probably contributes to my dropping in on a list which at first glance I mistakenly thought was about naval officers who later became head coaches... Anyhow, a few observations:
 * The lead is well written and gives a nice overview of the list.
 * Thank you.


 * Citation(s) for Congressional restoration of the term “Midshipman” can be found here and here.
 * I have added the references to the lead, thanks for finding those.


 * The paragraph beginning with Vauix Carter, the “perfect 1.000” could probably use a citation, or a comment that he won the only game he coached. Perhaps some of the other stats presented in the paragraph could use citations.
 * Added a note explaining that he only coached one game.


 * The main reference for the entire coaches table appears to be another Wikipedia list which covers only the 2013 NCAA season. Some of the coaches have a reference, but the majority don't. You may want to use this reference (which you do) to cover the entire coaches table. -- Godot13 (talk) 07:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sourced the table to the Coaching Records website. Thanks for the suggestions, I have attempted to apply all of them to the article. - Awardgive. Help out with Project Fillmore County 04:06, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess I still don't understand why the general note "[A 7]" for the entire Coaches table contains "Statistics correct as of the end of the 2013–14 college football season" when only #37 on that list had a game in 2013... Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand.-Godot13 (talk) 05:08, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's alright. The note is standard for lists like this (example: this). It's really just there to say that the list is up-to-date and everything is correct. Thanks, - Awardgive. Help out with Project Fillmore County 17:57, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Comments:
 * "becoming one of the first Independent schools in that division" - lowercase i, the linked article doesn't capitalize it.
 * "No coach" is sorting under N; better, I think, to sort before A or after Z.
 * Similarly, "—" should sort before 0, not after 0, in the bowls column.
 * You have two images down below the table, but the table isn't that wide, leaving a ton of whitespace on the right side on my monitor. Why not move the images up next to the table?
 * Why the heck are references 3 and 9 Wikipedia articles? Wikipedia articles are not RSs.
 * If no author is specified, you should leave the author fields blank, rather than putting in "staff" or "staff writer".
 * Consider archiving your online references with a site like webcitation.org or web.archive.org, so that if the cited sources ever change or go down, it doesn't affect your list.
 * -- Pres N  22:19, 3 March 2014 (UTC)


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