Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Nepalese kings/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was withdrawn by The Rambling Man via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC).

List of Nepalese kings

 * Nominator(s):  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  07:00, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

This is about kings of Nepal who ruled from 1743 to its dissolution in 2008. 2008 was pretty recent, yeah. The civil war was a scary time to be part of. Crazy stories to listen to as well. Like, the communist would come to your house and take away your children or anyone to fight in the war. CAPTAIN MEDUSA  talk  07:00, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Support ~ HAL  333  12:09, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Drive-by comments from Sdkb

 * I don't like having the collage be a single file, as it prevents you from seeing any one of the images full-sized when you click on it and requires you to read the full caption to find out the name of the person you clicked on. I'd suggest switching to Multiple image or Image array. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The lead is seven substantial paragraphs, which goes beyond the four suggested by MOS:LEAD. I'd suggest moving much of the discussion on individual kings to the notes column, or just leaving it for King of Nepal. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The six-year increments starting from 1743 on the timeline are not great, plus there's shorter marks that appear add more odd intervals. I'd suggest converting to 10-year increments, and also considering suppressing on mobile via If mobile. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and one more: it might be good to include the chronological number of each king if that's something people sometimes mention. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the comments! I believe I have addressed all of them except for the last one because Template:Succession table monarch does not support it.   CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  18:06, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I'm afraid I have good news, bad news, and ugly news.First, the good: clicking through to some of the shahs, they tend to start with "was king of Nepal from X to Y" rather than "was the Xth king of Nepal", so it seems the ordinal probably isn't that important and we don't need to bother adding it to the template.The bad: Regarding the lead, though, it looks like you've mainly just taken out paragraph breaks, so it still looks overlong to me (the four paragraph target from MOS:LEAD is really just a proxy for length). My view on this might be unorthodox, in which case I won't stand in the way, but I feel that the lead of list pages like this one should be reserved for explaining a quick overview of the topic itself (i.e. what it means to be king of Nepal), not going through a chronology of all the most significant examples. That would be better done in the notes section, where it can be placed alongside the dates/photo/etc., or at King of Nepal, where it can be discussed narratively. If you opt to keep the info here, that'll essentially negate the purpose of King of Nepal, so you might want to consider redirecting that page to here, unless there's so much to say about the position itself that it can't be summarized in the lead.The ugly: Actually, looking into it a bit, there's a significant forking problem here. List of heads of state of Nepal exists, which has a scope that's 90% just a duplicate of this page. I realize that there's technically nothing in the criteria that requires you to address this, but it presents a significant WP:ENDURE problem by splitting future editor effort, so I would strongly suggest doing so. Your best option is probably to merge this page to that one, which would mean mainly just getting the listings of the two presidents up to par. Alternatively, you could transclude the table from this page to that one. On a related note, neither Nepal topics nor Heads of State of Nepal appears to link here currently. I'd suggest adding the former to this page, and adding the latter if this page isn't merged to include the presidents. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 21:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , List of heads of state of Nepal should be renamed to List of presidents of Nepal or be merged to President of Nepal. There seems to be forking problem with every page that begins with List of heads of state of [insert country here], some examples, List of heads of state of Germany, List of heads of state of Spain, List of heads of state of Romania etc. The article should be about present Nepal no the Kingdom.  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  16:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I just realized that List of heads of state of Nepal has existed for many years, with the incoming links to show for it, whereas you only created this page last month. That makes me much more comfortable asking you to resolve the forking, since you created it. When there are forks, we generally keep the older, more established page. It also seems the most logical scope would include the presidents, since there are only three of them, so they shouldn't have their own list yet. Given both of those things, I think that this page should be redirected there and that page should be the one you take to FL status. That really shouldn't be as much work as it sounds, since you'll only have three more entries to fix up, but I unfortunately cannot support this until that happens. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 20:50, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Reywas92Talk 01:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The table duplicates Kingdom_of_Nepal, so this may fail criterion 3c. The table of prime ministers duplicates List of prime ministers of Nepal so perhaps it should all be removed. This also duplicates List_of_heads_of_state_of_Nepal.
 * The corresponding article is King of Nepal, so shouldn't this be List of kings of Nepal? Merging these two pages would be ideal to consolidate information for readers since the former is short and somewhat duplicative.
 * There shouldn't be a Family column when every entry is the same (and Shah is part of their names).
 * The Notes column doesn't contain notes, it contains the claim for succession. Is there other information about the kings that may also be worth noting? Otherwise you should use precise headers.
 * The use of multiple sources in both lifespan and reign end seems bit cluttered.
 * With that, are there any general sources that cover several or all of the kings? It seems a little weird that one source is "The Role of Renewable Energy Technology in Holistic Community Development" and that there isn't something broader or more official.
 * The cropped image for Pratap Singh Shah is a bit streched and lower quality: the original at List of heads of state of Nepal seems much better (as do many of the other portraits there, especially for Rajendra Bikram Shah).
 * I'm not sure "dissolution" is the best word for the first sentence since it wasn't split into smaller parts. Abolition or replacement would be better.
 * It is best to withdraw this nomination. I will renominate the article when the issues mentioned above are resloved. Thanks.  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  15:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


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