Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Nobel laureates affiliated with Columbia University/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 19 July 2021 (UTC).

List of Nobel laureates affiliated with Columbia University

 * Nominator(s): alphalfalfa(talk) 03:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the FL criteria. alphalfalfa(talk) 03:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Drive-by comment
 * Per WP:CHRONO, the tables should be in chronological order, not reverse chronological order i.e. the earliest laureates should be at the top, not the bottom -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * @ChrisTheDude Fixed. alphalfalfa(talk) 18:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - you only changed "as of October 2020" in one place, but I took care of the other one for you :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Support – nice job! RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:07, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * "As of October 2020" (in two places) - that was nearly nine months ago, it could do with updating. If it says that because that's when the most recent awards were given out, maybe consider saying "as of the 2020 awards"
 * "Affiliates during the Manhattan Project...." - wouldn't hurt to add a few words to explain what this was for those who don't know eg "Affiliates during the Manhattan Project, the research program which developed the first nuclear weapons....."
 * That's all I got - great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * There's a random large whitespace in the notes section


 * @ChrisTheDude Done! alphalfalfa(talk) 06:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Support, but with a few comments:
 * 1) I created this page for Columbia, and for a few other top universities. Every year around October, I update the main list List of Nobel laureates by university affiliation together with a few other editors (and so that's why there is the saying "as of October 2020"), and the original purpose to set up these individual pages was to control the main article size and to provide details on universities with large numbers of laurates.
 * 2) For consistency and fairness, the criteria for the inclusion of laureates are the same among all universities. As for the military affiliations such as those who worked for the military during the Manhattan project, there was a consensus to exclude them from the lists and only count academic positions, otherwise there'd be huge inflation for several universities.
 * 3) The general format in the individual pages of different universities remains almost identical (e.g., List of Nobel laureates affiliated with Harvard University), and was designed for easy comparison and data collection. For example, we generally keep the most recent laureates at the beginning of the tables so that it is easier to count (and proofread) how many laureates won since 2000.
 * 4) Finally, to keep neutrality, I'd refrain from focusing too much on a single university. But since editor  has chosen to nominate the Columbia's page for featured article, I'd like to give my support and appreciation. However, given what I said above, please do not alter the format and content too much. Thanks. Minimumbias (talk) 23:41, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)
 * The tables needs a caption, e.g. at the top of the table code add "|+ " or, if that caption would duplicate a nearby header, you can make it only for screen reader software like "|+ ". Captions allow screen reader software to jump to tables by name. You have one for the first table (though it has a line break for some reason) but not the other
 * Column headers need to be marked with colscopes, e.g. "!Name" should be "!scope=col| Name". Colscopes and Rowscopes (below) allow screen reader software to properly read out tables verbally.
 * The primary cell of each row should be marked with rowscopes, e.g. "|Wilhelm Wien" should be "!scope=row| Wilhelm Wien" -- Pres N  02:51, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


 * @ Pres N  Done! alphalfalfa(talk) 06:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Source review –
 * The all caps in the titles of refs 12 and 73 should be removed.
 * Refs 33, 38 and 134 are missing publishers.
 * Other than those points, the formatting and reliability look okay throughout, and the link-checker tool shows no issues. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * @ Giants2008 ( Talk ) Done! alphalfalfa(talk) 07:00, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * With those points resolved, I'd say the source review has been passed. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 22:24, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Support, with one comment:
 * the degree abbreviations (B.A., M.D., Ph.D., etc.) should not include periods. MOS:ABBR states that . That is particularly important here, since the initialism in "EKA Lecturer" does not use full point. To fix the inconsistency, I say remove the periods. Thrakkx (talk) 03:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Done! alphalfalfa(talk) 20:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 22:16, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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