Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Olympic men's ice hockey players for Switzerland/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Hahc21 10:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC).

List of Olympic men's ice hockey players for Switzerland

 * Nominator(s): Anthony (talk) 14:50, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because it passed peer review (albeit a while ago), and it was modeled after two successful hockey FLs, List of Olympic men's ice hockey players for Canada and List of Men's World Ice Hockey Championship players for Canada (1977–present). Perhaps we can get the Big Seven lists done before Sochi 2014. Anthony (talk) 14:50, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Support I believe the redlink issue has been sufficiently addressed to pass the "minimal proportion" standard and I believe all other criteria are met as well. Regards, Rejectwater (talk) 16:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I seemed to recall that representing one's country in the Olympics conferred sufficient notability in Wikipedia for an article. To that end, if any player on this list did play for Switzerland, then they are notable, and should be linked. If some were selected and didn't play (and this was their only notable achievement in their lifetimes) then I suppose they should be unlinked. I agree that one-line stub articles are sub-optimal, but our criteria here need there to be a "minimal proportion of red links". How you move on from here is entirely up you guys. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Here you go: "Athletes from any sport are presumed notable if they have competed at the Summer or Winter Olympic games..." from WP:NOLYMPICS. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:52, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, I've un-delinked (relinked?) the goaltender articles. I'll work on trying to stub most of them so they don't stick out so much. Since that's an ongoing process and will get done eventually, are there any other glaring issues? If there's nothing else then I can just focus on article creation. Anthony (talk) 15:33, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I haven't reviewed the list yet, I was just trying to help you understand more fully the concerns raised above regarding the links. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Have you had a chance to review? So far there's just the one oppose vote, but I've fixed just about all the issues except for the article creation (and I'm working on it). Anthony (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)


 * In my opinion, most of the second paragraph is not appropriate for this page; only the last sentence. The rest discusses Olympic history and how it affected Canada's Olympic hockey teams.  74.12.176.198 (talk) 03:54, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Only 2 lines reference Canada. The paragraph is discussing the IIHF allowing NHL players to participate in the Olympics, which was (and is) a monumental shift in Olympic ice hockey history (and was instigated by Canada's boycott). Admittedly the paragraph was taken from the List of Olympic men's ice hockey players for Canada, but it's equally applicable to Switzerland, and all Olympic lists, in my opinion. Anthony (talk) 13:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * How did the inability to send NHL players to the Olympics impact Switzerland? Were there any Swiss players in the NHL?  Also the statement that professional players of other leagues were not able to compete is incorrect.  Swiss players from the NLA were permitted at the Olympics prior to 1988.  Alfio Molina and Aldo Zenhäusern are two counter examples. 74.12.176.198 (talk) 19:59, 15 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Comments from  Harrias  talk
 * As none of the goaltenders have any notes, it would be as well to remove that column: it can always be added back if needed.
 * Similarly for the medals column for the reserve goaltenders.
 * As I said in The Rambling Man's comments above, I removed the notes column from the reserve goaltenders, thus making it the only one that doesn't have one. But for consistency's sake, I kept the medals column in all three, and the Notes column in the goaltenders. I feel it's better to have it for all of them and leave most of it blank, then to have it for skaters only. One day a goalie might make it into the IIHFHOF and then we'll have to create a whole new column just for that, which is a pain.
 * Support, I've left the above comment about the columns outside the resolved comments box, because it isn't resolved! That said, it is a minor enough issue that while I still think it would be better without those columns, I can accept that you think it is better with them, and it certainly isn't enough of a problem for me not to offer my support. Nice work, and thanks for responding to my comments so quickly and politely.  Harrias  talk 14:19, 3 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - after all the comments above, it's now looking quite good. Only comment- "1928 Games and 1948 Games[6];" -> "1928 Games and 1948 Games;[6]". -- Pres N  23:16, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
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