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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Matthewedwards 00:34, 30 May 2009.

List of Ozzy Osbourne band members

 * Nominator(s): CallMeAndrew (talk) 21:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because when i first came across this list, it was pretty good already. it had all the band members. it had a summary at the top. i worked hard and made a table at the bottom of the list, added some pictures and checked if there were other things i could add. i think its ready. how about you? CallMeAndrew (talk) 21:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

 Oppose  - just looking at the list — Chris!  c t 22:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Per WP:WIAFL #3b, why split this info into a separate list when it could be include in Ozzy Osbourne?
 * Also info should be in table format
 * After some thoughts, I tend to agree that this is too long for inclusion at Ozzy Osbourne. So, I strike my oppose.— Chris!  c t 19:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I agree it would be easier to read in table format, but it make sense that this is a stand-alone list. Between the major releases column (on a future table) and the large and very helpful chart at the bottom of the article, this is way too much information to include in the main article, especially with the main article so long already. Geraldk (talk) 22:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, i will make all the info into a table, making it nice and easy to read. but should i really include it into the backing band? Geraldk has a good point. CallMeAndrew (talk) 00:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it is definitely OK here. The main article is huge as is, and the list adds a lot of information that would make the main very clunky. What I would recommend, and what is proscribed by MOS, is that you use some of the information in the lead here as a summary paragraph in the backing band section (it shouldn't be just a bulleted list - perhaps just write out a short summary about the current backing band members?), and then use a see also link to direct here. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 17:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

ok, its all fixed up and lookin sexy. does it need anything else? jeez this is hard work. CallMeAndrew (talk) 03:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Oppose from
 * Where are the references?
 * No need to link English.
 * "Keyboardist Don Airey was also brought in temporarily" done
 * "In 19 March 1982, while on their way to a festival in Orlando, Florida" done
 * "the band were taken" "were"-->was (I know that British uses collective nouns differently, but we're talking about one band.) done
 * "During an attempted prank, the plane crashed, killing the three people inside, one of which was Rhoads." What was this prank? done
 * "one of which was Rhoads" "which"-->whom done
 * "and he was followed" done
 * "late-1982" No hyphen. done
 * "and he remained as guitarist" done
 * "ex-Sabbath member Geezer Butler also joined" done
 * "in 1987, and he was replaced by" done
 * "Former Faith No More co-founder Mike Bordin became the band's drummer in 1997, and he remains to this day"-->Former Faith No More co-founder Mike Bordin has been the band's drummer since 1997. done
 * Can you make the table sortable? Dabomb87 (talk) 16:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ok, i fixed all the crossed off ones. i dont know what u mean by sortable table. just tell me what i should change. and i got 1 reference in there about the randy rhoads death. i dont know what you mean about no need to link english. i dont know who wrote this but they had bad grammar. anything else? User:CallMeAndrew (talk) 20:03, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Please do not strike other people's comments, thanks. I went ahead and unlinked English for you. I still don't see any references. For sortability, did you read the link I provided? Dabomb87 (talk) 21:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose no references! Nergaal (talk) 04:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Reference does [|this] count as a reference? CallMeAndrew (talk) 03:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the references must be reliable, and I'm not sure if the above qualifies. See List of Metallica band members as an example of a well-referenced band members list. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/osbourne_ozzy/artist.jhtml. This good? CallMeAndrew (talk) 03:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. See WP:CITET on how to cite sources. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, thanks for the help with the references. i will add more later. but you said make the table sortable. i looked at the link to sortable tables and i get what a sortable table is but what would i sort this table by? alphebetical name order? CallMeAndrew (talk) 14:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sources need to be used in the lead and the list of members, too. See List of Metallica band members again for how to do this. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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