Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Padma Vibhushan award recipients/archive1


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List of Padma Vibhushan award recipients

 * Nominator(s): -  Vivvt  ( Talk ) 17:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

This is a list of India's second-highest civilian award recipients. I believe its written with the neutrality mentioning the refusals and returns of the coveted award. Looking forward to constructive criticism. -  Vivvt  ( Talk ) 17:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Comments by Dharmadhyaksha
 * DODs of posthumous wins should be mentioned. Maybe in footnotes like how they are done at Bharat Ratna.
 * Done
 * Also, instead of using the Template:Dagger, can you insert the symbol "†"? The purpose of having a symbol along with colour coding is that it should help colour-blind people. But the template doesn't allow you to copy the dagger symbol and Ctrl+F it. This direct use of symbol will allow Ctrl+Fing for lazy guys like me. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Done Let me know if you have more. - Vivvt ( Talk ) 04:38, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Comments by Yashthepunisher That's it from me. Yashthepunisher (talk) 07:00, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Prime Minister of India is linked twice in the lead.
 * Removed
 * Is is necessary to write "..Republic Day of India"? As the opening sentence mentions that its an "Indian" award. You can remove India from it.
 * Removed
 * Wiki-link "Ministry of Home Affairs" in ref 1.
 * I wish not to wiki-link anything in references. This was also asked earlier in one of my previous FLCs and was bought to my attention by Crisco as per the discussion here.
 * Wiki-link Daily Mail and The Gazette of India at ref 3 and 4 respectively.
 * Same as above.
 * Wiki-link The Hindu, The Times of India, Business Standard, Mumbai Mirror, Outlook magazine and Rediff.com as well, when they first appear in the ref. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:56, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Same as above.
 * Fair enough.
 * Let me know if you have more comments. - Vivvt ( Talk ) 06:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * There are few instances where the sentence is pointing to "India". Like: "Prime Minister of India", "Constitution of India.", "Supreme Court of India". They are repetitve and quite redundant. Try to trim some of them.
 * Done
 * I don't see any other issue with this article. Solve the last comment and it has my Support. Yashthepunisher (talk) 16:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks much for the comments and support. - Vivvt ( Talk ) 04:27, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Comment
 * Why is Rambhadracharya listed as Giridhar Mishra? It is neither the name used in the official list nor his common name?
 * Fixed by


 * Instead of using flags, using the name of the country in State column (renamed as State/Domicile as done in the official list) is better. A foreign national can be colour-coded in a different colour like the posthumous one. Redtigerxyz Talk 06:10, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought of that earlier but recipient like Aga Khan is a citizen for two countries. So dropped the idea for the easier maintenance to address WP:ACCESS


 * Image review:
 * Nominated Sumati Morarjee image for deletion. Replace with another female recipient, if possible.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 14:54, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The deletion request is declined at Commons. Should I still replace the image? - Vivvt ( Talk ) 12:10, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Comments
 * I'm not sure why you split the tables by decade, it dramatically reduces the usability of the sorting, i.e. you can only find all those involved in Social Work (for example) in a decade, and not overall. I would merge the tables.
 * Wouldn't it be a inconvenience for the navigation? Earlier, it was a huge long table. I chopped it off per decade considering its future expansion.
 * I don't think so. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:48, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Let me check how is it implemented in other FLCs. - Vivvt ( Talk ) 08:43, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like its the standard across. Thus, I have merged the tables. - Vivvt ( Talk ) 07:34, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Do the flag symbols used in the table meet WP:ACCESS?
 * Not sure. How do you want me handle Aga Khan who is a citizen for two countries? Should I just represent all the all the non-Indian in same colour and mention the respective countries in the footnote? Redtigerxyz also asked the same Q above.
 * I don't know how best to do it, I just asked you if the symbols were accessible to screen-reading software, for example. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:48, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * As we both are not sure about the image eligibility for WP:ACCESS, I have removed them and replaced them wtih the footnotes.


 * All tables, including the key, should use row and col scopes.
 * Done


 * Is there a reason for the over-capitalisation in the table, e.g. Why isn't "Public Affairs" just "Public affairs"?
 * Capitalisation is used in the referential data. Let me know if that should be changed.


 * "only Five-star rank officer" - caps again, just "five-star" is fine.
 * Done


 * Really should be using page references for that 193-page PDF which is being used to source the winners from 1954 to 2014.
 * In-Progress Done


 * Basanti Devi redirects to Basanti Devi College. Who was the recipient?  And if it was Basanti Devi herself, would it have been posthumous?  Or was she 93 at the time?
 * Basanti Devi herself was the recipient. I didnt get your 93-year-old concern. Could you please elaborate? - Vivvt ( Talk ) 11:47, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It was because the link appeared to give the award to the college, not the individual. When I looked into the individual, it appears she would either have been deceased, or very old (93) at the time of the award.  I just wanted to confirm to whom it was awarded (because the list isn't clear on that with the redirect to the college) and whether it was posthumous.  The Rambling Man (talk) 18:48, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Basanti Devi is now a separate article. She died a year later and was 93 when she received the award. Btw, just observing that non of the Padma awards have ever been given to institutes, but only to people, DOA. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:03, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks.

Very good list indeed. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:57, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have addressed your concerns. Please let me know if you have more comments. - <span style="color:#808080;font-size:15px;font-family:'Georgia, serif';font-style: italic;font-weight: bold;">Vivvt ( Talk ) 07:34, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

– SchroCat (talk) 08:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
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