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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 19:35, 21 September 2009.

List of Project Runway contestants

 * Nominator(s): Another Believer  ( Talk ) 01:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all criteria. I recently got List of Big Brother (U.S.) HouseGuests to FL status, and this Project Runway list is very similar. Do please look at the talk page to offer a suggestion about how to deal with the age discrepancy for Daniel Franco. Hoping to see this list here soon. Thanks! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

My comments have been resolved; my current support is conditional based on other reviewers' impressions of the lead of the list. KV5 ( Talk  •  Phils ) 18:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:35, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:20, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Comments from --  SRE.K.A.L. 24 [c]
 * Daniel Franco should have the blue background on both of his entries, so that readers can find both more easily. Also, how did Daniel be aged 28 the first season, and then 33 the next, when the two seasons are only one year apart?
 * Done. Seeing as Franco was born in November 1971, I think it would be correct to say he was 33 at the start of the first season, and 34 at the start of the second. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Dabomb. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Is there any way you can find website references for the ages, hometowns, and finish?
 * Most of the information for Seasons 4 and 5 are cited via web sources, since the premiere episodes did not provide this information to viewers. For the other seasons, I thought the premiere episodes would be the best and most appropriate sources for the information. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

--  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]]  23:02, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments from
 * General
 * Alt text, dabs, and external links all check out fine.
 * Lead
 * Project Runway is an American reality show in which contestants compete to be the best fashion designer, as determined by the show's judges. -- +"television" in is an American reality show
 * Done. Went ahead and linked "reality television show". -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Season 6 began airing on Lifetime on August 20, 2009. -- Stating that it began airing on Lifetime makes it seem as if it was broadcast on a different network before. If it did, that should be mentioned. If it hasn't it should be stated earlier that the series has always aired on Lifetime.
 * Done. Indicated the first five seasons were on Bravo. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Each season, selected competitors are progressively eliminated based on the judges' scores until only a few contestants remain; these finalists prepare a complete fashion collection for New York Fashion Week, in which a winner is determined.  -- A)Each season --> "During each season," B) in which a winner is determined, I think from which a winner is determined would sound better here.
 * Done. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:36, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The lead should state something about the Hometowns.
 * Nothing terribly interesting as far as the Hometowns goes. Only observation I can make is that a majority of the contestants live in NYC or Los Angeles, understandably. Any other thoughts or suggestions? -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Tables, references
 * Check out fine.-- T ru  c o   503 15:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I disagree strongly with coloring Daniel Franco's cells differently. He is the only one to appear twice, while the asterisk makes sense, I see no reason at all to use color. It gives him way too much emphasis. He, in the great scheme of things, was not that special. --Golbez (talk) 01:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure how to address. Personally, I like the coloring for emphasis. However, I think others would have to comment as well, as none of them had a problem with the coloring before they offered their support. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:25, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * But you're emphasizing something that isn't important. That's over-emphasis. --Golbez (talk) 16:44, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Being the only contestant to appear on the show twice is something unique and important. The network could have easily barred him from competing a second time, especially in consecutive seasons, but they didn't. I don't think the color needs to be in the entire row, though; it should just be on his name. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 17:01, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * More important than winning? --Golbez (talk) 17:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, but that was never highlighted to begin with, and shouldn't be as far as I'm concerned. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:04, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, but... if winning is more important, and winning isn't highlighted, then why should Franco be highlighted? :) --Golbez (talk) 17:14, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Then highlight winning. Whatev. The fact of the matter remains that it's referenced, it's notable, it's unique, and it should be highlighted. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 17:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's referenced, it's notable, it's unique, but it should not be highlighted, it should be footnoted. --Golbez (talk) 17:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You haven't provided any evidence that would convince me that this is the proper course of action, which is why I continue to oppose the change. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 18:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter to me. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I feel strong enough about this to oppose. Right now you're making Daniel Franco appear more important than everyone else - including the winners. An asterisk is sufficient, color has no place here. Heck, I propose changing it from the asterisk to a simple footnote; if another contestant comes on the show again then we can make something more formal, but as it is, this is a fluke, not something that needs this much attention on the list. --Golbez (talk) 01:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * There are no grounds for opposition. MOS:COLOR and WP:ACCESS, the two guiding points of style that oversee this matter, say nothing about color used in this fashion. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 17:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's undue emphasis of a list entry, which must be a ground for opposing the promotion of a list. --Golbez (talk) 17:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Then reduce the emphasis, as I mentioned above. It shouldn't be on the entire row anyway. The color assists users who cannot see the asterisk easily. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 17:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it shouldn't be an asterisk, it should be a footnote. If this happens again then make it more formal. I would reduce the emphasis to where I feel it belongs but I think I would be reverted. --Golbez (talk) 17:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You would indeed, because there is no consensus. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 18:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
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