Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Saw media/archive2


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 08:07, 24 February 2010.

List of Saw media

 * Nominator(s): — User:GroundZ3R0 002c / t 02:39, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating List of Saw media as per the new featured list criteria and that I based the article formatting and style off of List of Metal Gear media, another featured list with similar multimedia scope. The first nomination was failed because there was a lack of support votes. I have addressed all the issues noted and have been given grace by the editor who failed the last FLC to renominate this article. Unless there are issues present, please feel free to express support or fail votes to get the FLCs going along. Thanks, Ground  Z3R0   002  22:40, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Quick Comment - Can About.com be considered a reliable source? Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk 22:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think About.com is a reliable source. This is so for IMDB, too. Therefore I have to oppose.— Chris! c / t 05:16, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Why not About.com? — Mike   Allen   05:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think IMDB can be considered Reliable, I think on the About.com's Talk page the user summed it up well I think Talk:About.com, he also gives links to numerous discussions which you should feel free to look over. Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk 14:50, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * IMDB is deemed unreliable because some of its info are user-submitted content. See the old discussion on Wikipedia talk:Citing IMDb.— Chris! c / t 00:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * A lot of IMDB's content is user submitted. And there are no controls on it that I am aware of. Resolute 00:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I know all about IMDb. Trust me. :)  I was asking about About.com.  I think in this instance it is a reliable source, because it's a fact (verified) that Tandera won the Scream Queens competition, About.com is just confirming that.  However, if we must have a difference source reporting the same thing, then I'll look for it.  —  Mike   Allen   00:12, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If I may. IMDB has been deemed unreliable for sources but has been accepted for only casting information when no other sources are present, which is the case for the sources used. Next, I do not know if about.com is reliable, but they are only sourcing release dates of the DVDs, not disputable, little-known, or opinionated material therefore they should be acceptable for this use only. Ground  Z3R0   002  01:45, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have seen about.com pages that summarize wikipedia articles. For DVD release dates try Amazon, or pretty much any general DVD releases sites. Nergaal (talk) 01:54, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay I will add those in a few hours. Should I leave the About.com sources to compliment the Amazon sources? And I'm assuming the IMDB is fine because it is only used for casting info? Ground  Z3R0   002  23:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Since they are dubious it'd be much better to leave them out, also I doubt the Amazon sources need any complimenting. Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk
 * Okay, I have removed every about.com source and replaced them with amazon.com sources. For Tanedra Howard winning Scream Queens, I got a source from The Inquisitr site. Ground  Z3R0   002  20:14, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Quick Questions & Comments - Why is the used? Also I understand there is a |ref= parameter within the template used, why isn't it used? also the Video Game section should be formatted similarly to List of The Legend of Zelda media. I'll also look into the other sections unless someone else can comment on them as I'm pretty sure there is a specific way to format them.  Afro  ( Its More Than a Feeling ) - Afkatk 21:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Oppose from
 * Sentence fragments in the notes should not have periods (full stops) at the end. Example: "Currently in pre-production."
 * Watch out for overlinking of commonly known terms. I doubt we need to link United Kingdom, for example.
 * Why are some notes unreferenced?
 * What makes http://www.flixster.com/ reliable?
 * What makes http://www.freeonlinegames.com/adventure-games/obama-saw-game.html reliable? After looking at this one, I can't help but wonder a bit about the inclusion criteria. Is this just some Internet game with the Saw name in it, or has it been officially approved by the company owning the Saw franchise?
 * Does footnote 59 have a reference?
 * The alt text is decent, but needs work. It can contain only material that can be verified by a non-expert who just looks at the image (pretend you are describing the image to a friend over the phone). Also, alt text cannot have Wiki-markup, such as the double-bracket link syntax. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Please take some time to address the concerns raised above, and then feel free to renominate. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:22, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
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