Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Silver Slugger Award winners at first base


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 17:24, 31 March 2009.

List of Silver Slugger Award winners at first base

 * Nominator(s): KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe that it meets all of the article criteria. This is article 2 toward a featured topic; for more details on the FT, see my sandbox and scroll to the bottom. I will certainly address any and all concerns. Cheers. KV5 ( Talk  •  Phils ) 16:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment
 * Jeff Bagwell, formerly of the National League's Houston Astros, has also won the award three times (1994, 1997, 1999). - formerly of -> formerly with
 * Both are grammatically correct. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 01:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Symbol should be accompanied by color; in this case, Member of the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum only has symbol
 * Symbols do not have to be accompanied by color; WP:ACCESS only suggests that colors be accompanied by symbols to alleviate problems with color blindness. A color-blind person has no problem seeing the dagger. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 01:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, I don't follow. A color-blind person has problem seeing the asterisk but has no problem for the dagger??— Chris!  c t 01:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe what KV5 is saying is that the guideline says that colour must be accompanied by a symbol but that there is no requirement for a symbol to be accompanied by colour. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That is indeed what I meant. The color is the primary indicator for a positional leader; the asterisk is there to fulfill the requirements of WP:ACCESS in regards to the color. The dagger doesm't need a color, and I find it unnecessary to create a third color category throughout this set of lists, which I hope will eventually be featured, for someone who leads at their position and is in the Hall of Fame. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 11:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I see— Chris!  c t 18:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed the edit bunching
 * There was no edit bunching on either of the resolutions that I viewed this on; what are you using? KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 01:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It is in the references section and File:Ryan Howard3.jpg. I am using Firefox.— Chris!  c t 01:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I viewed this in both 1024x768 and 1152x864 regular resolutions in IE and in 1280x800 widescreen in Firefox and had no problems. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 11:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Weird. For some reasons when I look at this now, the edit bunching is gone. I guess this isn't a problem anymore.— Chris!  c t 18:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

— Chris!  c t 00:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ref column does not need to be sortable


 * Support — Chris!  c t 21:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Very good overall, but I do have one important question right away, particularly in light of recent FLC developments:
 * Why is a seperate list necessary when all of the winners are given at Silver Slugger Award? Is it for the statistics, or is there something else I'm missing?
 * Separate lists have always been available (they are currently split into AL and NL lists, if you care to search for them). However, until now, they have provided little information beyond winners' names. This expansion and merger is to give the reader an in-depth look at the players' statistics in the years that they won the award. Also, it's going to be part of a featured topic. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 20:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I'll ask Scorpion0422 about this, since he is the editor behind potential changes to the process and I want to see his opinion before supporting.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 00:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this list is fine because the table contains more information than what it is at the main page. The ones I object to are the ones where pretty much the exact same tables are duplicated and nothing is added (for example, the List of Universities in Canada). There is also precedent: List of Nobel laureates. -- Scorpion 0422  01:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * National League doesn't need the link in the second paragraph.
 * Good catch. Done. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 20:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Is Todd Helton's batting average record only for first basemen? George Brett and Tony Gwynn had higher averages in the Silver Slugger era, and those are only off the top of my head.
 * First basemen only, since they are the subject of this article. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 20:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * In that case, would you mind clarifying that in the article? I'm thinking something like "Helton holds the record for the highest batting average by a first baseman in a Silver Slugger-winning season with the .372 mark he set in 2000."  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 00:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The Mattingly caption could use a reference for the six grand slams. This photo is also causing edit bunching.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 18:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I will check out the edit bunching, though as I said above, I have checked this on three resolutions in two different browsers and have not seen a problem. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 20:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Attempted to fix bunching. Ref added. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 20:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The bunching templates made things all screwy, so I removed them and cut down on the number of pictures instead. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 20:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Support - Scorp has convinced me that the subject is viable, and the list meets all FL standards as I see them. Looks good to go, at least from my vantage point.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 20:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Review by 
 * Lead looks fine.
 * Tables
 * The references should not be sortable.
 * Done. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * References
 * The MLB references should have MLB Advanced Media, L.P as the publisher if you are going to have the work as MLB.com
 * The Brewers ref should also have MLB Advanced Media, L.P as the publisher.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   00:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * These above two comments are absolutely contrary to a comment you made and marked as resolved on Featured list candidates/Silver Slugger Award. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * They can work both ways, so you can do this or the other way.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   15:06, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done per the above link. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 21:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also fix the disambiguation links, as found with the toolbox checker tool.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   00:45, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards. Good work.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   22:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:18, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - nice list. Dincher (talk) 19:03, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
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