Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Tampa Bay Lightning seasons/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:48, 18 February 2011.

List of Tampa Bay Lightning seasons

 * Nominator(s): Nomader  ( Talk ) 22:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it now meets the FL criteria. I've based it off of my work at List of Washington Capitals seasons and other FL NHL season articles such as List of New Jersey Devils seasons and List of New York Islanders seasons among others. Glad to be back at FLC and I look forward to addressing your comments and concerns. This is also a WP:WIKICUP nomination. Nomader ( Talk ) 22:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment the most obvious thing is that "hockey" in the first sentence should be expanded to ice hockey, or at the very least piped to hockey because to me, and probably a substantial chunk of the world's population, the sport called "hockey" does not involve blokes in armour on ice skates...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:14, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point, I never actually thought of that before. Changed. Nomader  ( Talk ) 13:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments from RexxS:
 * Accessibility of symbols: As there are numerous screen readers in use (as well as text-only browsers for those with limited bandwidth), the safest symbols to use are those you find directly on a standard keyboard, i.e. the first half of the codepage for Latin-1. As you know, that doesn't give you much choice for use as a key, although I'd suggest the '#' symbol as a replacement for the '¤' symbol. As TRM says, italic text will not be distinguished from normal text by a screen reader like JAWS, unless the user is warned beforehand to turn on announcements of presentational markup. I see you've moved away from using italics anyway for denoting Stanley Cup winners, and replaced it with a dagger. I'd agree with using a symbol in preference to italics, but the '†' symbol is read as a question mark by some screen readers. To overcome that, we've created a template † or dagger that uses an image with alt text to produce the symbol and to give a screen reader sensible text to read out. The alt text defaults to 'dagger', but you can use it to actually read out something like "Stanley Cup champions". I've made that change for you to have an example to work from on other articles. Feel free to change it if you'd prefer different alt text, or just the default. There's also a template ‡ or double-dagger if you ever need it. Templates for other symbols could be created on request. Hope that helps. --RexxS (talk) 19:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help, it's really appreciated; I've never really looked at lists from this accessibility point of view before. I've changed '¤' symbol to '#' per your suggestion in the key, and I'm going to go ahead and retrofit the other featured hockey lists. I'll let you know if I have any other access questions on your talk page. Nomader  ( Talk ) 21:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 *  Comment Support – The key says Stanley Cup-winning seasons are denoted with italics, yet I see no italics for 2004. If you're not going to use italics due to accessibility concerns, don't advertise them in the key.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 22:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Good point, I went ahead and removed them from the key. Sorry that it took me a few days to get back to you, my internet went out on my computer there. Nomader  ( Talk) 22:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Support &mdash; KV5  •  Talk  •  14:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


 *  Weak support perhaps you be good enough to be consistent with spaces (or without) before notes (e.g. there's a space before the dagger in the 03/04 season but no space before the * and Eastern, and ^ and Southeast), and NYT is relinked in the refs while ESPN isn't relinked, so consistency there would be good, otherwise all good. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and fixed the spaces. Looks like I missed the daggers when I went through it and removed them before. I also wikilinked ESPN for the second time. Thanks for the comments! Nomader  ( Talk ) 22:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


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