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List of Testudines families
The same sort of list as List of Anuran families. It looks as if there is less information in this article (and there is), but this is because the distinction between the turtle suborders is much more distinct than it is in the Anurans, and needs less explanation. Much more families are illustrated with photos this time, and there are very few red links in the table (none for the families). --liquidGhoul 12:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment: Very nice if, as you say, short. I am not sure that the "Taxonomy" heading is really required, and the lead section is rather brief: it may look better if the two were combined.  The Anuran list also lists mumber of families, genera and species - could this be added?  I also wonder whether we ought to say something about how the families are distinguished, in addition to the clear differences between the two suborders.


 * More importantly, why does this list give different families to those in Cryptodira (which mentions only 4 "main" families, Meiolaniidae, Testudinidae, Protostegidae, Trionychidae, 2 of which are not included in the list, and the list has another 9) and Pleurodira (which mentions 7 families, Podocnemidae, Chelidae, Dortokidae, Eusarkiidae, Propleuridae, Bothremydidae, Pelomedusidae, but the list has only 3 of them, assuming that Podocnemidae a typo for Podocnemididae or vice versa)? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, I will merge those sections. I will also try to get the numbers for genera and species. As for describing the differences in the families, isn't that something the articles should do?
 * That other thing is strange. Those two articles are really inaccurate, I will fix them up in the near future. I can't find references to any of those redlink families on wiki or in my books. I am guessing they are old terms. This list is accurate against the turtle article. I also checked all the families against the first reference, which seems reputable. --liquidGhoul 14:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Support now my comments have been dealt with. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I am not sure it merits a separate article/list. Testudines has the same list (with very different items, btw). Renata 00:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * They have exactly the same items, but this list has omitted the extinct familes. They are omitted as there is very little information on them, and require a simpler table. A seperate list for them will be created when needed. The idea, is that eventually the article will remove the list. If work ever goes into the turtle article as happened with the Frog article, long lists like this need to be split; they lengthen the article too much. If there are only a few families, the list can remain within the article (like Salamander), but there are too many families in this order. --liquidGhoul 04:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment. Couls you add the number of Generas or Species for each family? I made the same request in Talk:List of Anuran families. CG 14:26, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately not (at least yet). I have no source which lists the number of or every species. If you have a suggestion, then I will be happy to include it. Also, what could I name the column? --liquidGhoul 14:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * What about the IUCN Red List? -- Froggydarb croak 23:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't contain a lot of species. I just looked up Chelodina, and it only has 7, and doesn't even include C. longicolus. --liquidGhoul 23:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Used this page. I looked at the source, and copied the species names from frop down box. Then matched each species to its family, and counted. Took ages, but it is now done... --liquidGhoul 00:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * We can keep the number of generas instead of species to make it more accurate. CG 07:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Good, I was worried about that too. They have been removed. I will get to adding genera numbers to the frogs later. Thanks. --liquidGhoul 08:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Great work. Support. CG 15:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Support.--Tnarg1 2 3 4  5 09:00, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Support -- Froggydarb croak 10:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Support looks good to me. Joelito (talk) 14:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)