Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Texas Tech Red Raiders head football coaches/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 01:29, 24 February 2010.

List of Texas Tech Red Raiders head football coaches

 * Nominator(s): NThomas (talk) 01:55, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because as I believe it meets all the FLC. It is based on the existing collegiate head coach FLs. NThomas (talk) 01:55, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * If you're going to include division championships, shouldn't you also mention the fact that there was a three-way tie in 2008?
 * In the lead, I added co- to the: sentence. The division co-championship for this page would be easy, its the only one. If we're going to add footnotes about which years were shared titles, including national (Nebraska), conference (almost all the teams), and division, there's going to be some long entries or a slew of footnotes. I'd say leave it go as it is. NThomas (talk) 04:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * We've also discussed this in another FLC, but I am against including division championships but the inclusion wouldn't prevent my eventual support. Editor's choice on this one.
 * I'm gonna keep it on this one. If Tech When Tech wins a few more division titles, it'll fill out better. NThomas (talk) 03:32, 4 February 2010


 * I am not a big fan of small paragraphs. A paragraph should have at least three sentences (preferably four). The first paragraph in your lead is one sentence and the second paragraph has around 15 sentences. Can you balance these out a bit more, or at least expand the first?
 * I added a sentence from the second paragraph but the first is all general information while the second is chronological history. Where would you split the second paragraph to balance it out?
 * What about splitting the 2nd paragraph into two paragraphs? They may at least balanace them off a little to make the 1st seem a little less disproportionate.—NMajdan &bull;talk 18:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I was asking where you would split the second paragraph. I went ahead and separated it from the Border Conference years to admission to the SWC, historically a turning point for TTU. NThomas (talk) 20:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It does look better. However, I won't strike this one to allow other reviewers to comment if they feel like it.—NMajdan &bull;talk


 * I am against the inclusion of interim head coaches as they are not considered official head coaches in the long run and are rarely included in statistics from schools and the NCAA.
 * When Tuberville was announced, he was named the 14th head coach, so I changed the list to show McNeil is not the 14th head coach. Removing him completely seems like too much, I'd rather see McNeil stay on the list, as he was the head coach, but keeping the number scheme continue with Tuberville. I also included about interium head coaches in the column's note. The other solution would be to create a separate list in a subsection with the interims and their records. The same problem will arise with Gary Darnell on the Texas A&M football list as both interim head coaches only coached the bowl game. So lets iron this out here for consistency. NThomas (talk) 03:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm curious on the opinions of other editors. This may just boil down to editor's choice again.—NMajdan &bull;talk 18:14, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Speaking as an editor (not as director), I prefer NThomas' method, but I value consistency in these head coach lists more, so hopefully you two can decide on a happy medium. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking at the NFL FLs, theres no consistency at all. Example: List of New Orleans Saints head coaches shows Wade Phillips as the ninth HC (even though his title was interim HC) and Sean Payton as 14th HC. On the Saints' website, it also list Payton as the 14th HC here. However, on the List of St. Louis Rams head coaches, Steve Spagnuolo is listed as the 26th HC because 2 interim HCs and a coach with two nonconsecutive terms, boost up the numbers. Spagnuolo's NFL.com bio lists him as the 23rd HC here. So there's nothing existing to help guide us.

Hope this helps!—NMajdan &bull;talk 20:03, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Closing note I have archived this nomination as unsuccessful, as more than a month has passed since this FLC was submitted, there is no consensus to promote and the length of FLC has put off reviewers. Unfortunately, I have had to fail several old, stale FLCs because of this. Feel free to re-submit this FLC in 5 or 6 days after ensuring that the previous issues have been resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.