Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Texas Tech Red Raiders men's basketball seasons/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 16:03, 2 February 2010.

List of Texas Tech Red Raiders men's basketball seasons

 * Nominator(s): NThomas (talk) 16:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

After working and getting List of Texas Tech Red Raiders football seasons to FL I'm starting to understand what it takes to get to FL status. I couldn't find a FL basketball season list so I combined elements from the football season FLs and List of Akron Zips men's basketball seasons to make it in my opinion FL worthy. NThomas (talk) 16:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * No need for the 2009-10 season row yet.
 * Because the article isn't "List of completed Texas Tech Red Raiders men's basketball seasons", I feel as long as the parameters aren't constantly being changed after every time a game is played and having In Progress solves that problem instead of empty parameters. NThomas (talk) 23:45, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This is actually fairly consistently applied across sports season FLs that play more often than once a week (the NFL, with one game a week, usually doesn't create a problem, but basketball and baseball teams, which play more often, tend to be kept at a stable point). KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 00:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As KV said, leaving the current season's row off is general practice. Go through the current FLs that would have a similar row and you will see that they do not. It needs to be removed. Good job on the creation of the season articles.—NMajdan &bull;talk 17:30, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I really believe the current season belongs on the list. When I read KV5's comment, I took that as it was common on non-football FL season lists. I'm not wanting to get into WP:WAX but, three of the four NBA FLs have the current season in the table. Since this will be the first NCAA basketball seasons list, we're breaking new ground here and the most similar FLs are the NBA FLs. The current season is still a season right? If the current season is not to be included on this list then I propose all season lists be moved to List of completed seasons. Thanks about creating the seasons. That was really the hardest part but, only one more section to go! NThomas (talk) 18:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Having the current season in the list removes a component of stability, inviting vandalism, edit wars, edit conflicts, and other unpleasant things. I know that the general practice for baseball lists, since they play pretty much every day is to either wait until the season is completed, as per my current practice at the List of Philadelphia Phillies seasons, or use stable points in the season for updates, meaning ends of months (not preferred) or the All-Star Break. I would recommend applying the same standard here. But that's just me. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 19:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Having the all of the parameters covered by In progress would solve any problems for constant updates and though. I even included an editors tag about not updating the stats until the season was completed.
 * I suppose we can probably live with that for now, though I would consider leaving the list at a stable point once the end of the current season is reached. That's generally the progression that I follow with lists of this type that are nominated in-season. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I feel this individual comment is finished right? Or is there still opposition to the In progress column for the current season? After all, it is stable and will be until the end of the season when the two final polls are released. NThomas (talk) 06:32, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I assumed that it was resolved per my last comment, but didn't mark it because it's not mine originally. KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 12:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I figured it was but just wanted to make sure. I left a message on NMajdan's talk page to close this comment if everyone, including Nmajdan, was satisfied with the outcome. NThomas (talk) 07:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I still don't agree with it being there, but it is not a big enough issue to keep me from Supporting.—NMajdan &bull;talk 15:48, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

—NMajdan &bull;talk 16:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for a quick response and comments. NThomas (talk) 23:45, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Support from KV5  ( Talk  •  Phils ) 15:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Support – Seems to meet FL standards now. I'm not that fussed about the tournament results, knowing now how many of them there are; in fact, I'll be interested to see what that list is like. While I'm here, can the table be capped? I haven't been able to do it properly.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 21:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Capped? You mean like a totals at the end of the list? I'm confused. NThomas (talk) 03:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think he was referring to this FLC page (the table doesn't fit in the hidden/FC template properly); I moved it to the talk page of this FLC. Dabomb87 (talk) 05:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments from 
 * General
 * Links, contributors, alt text, and dab links all check out fine.
 * Lead
 * Texas Tech has played its home games at United Spirit Arena in Lubbock, Texas since its opened in 1999 -- you mean since it opened in 1999.? or since its opening in 1999.?
 * Fixed. Good catch! NThomas (talk) 20:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The team's first season of conference play, Texas Tech went undefeated, winning the first of three consecutive Border Conference championships.  -- In my opinion, it would sound better as in the team's first season...
 * Fixed. Sounds better now. NThomas (talk) 20:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Before withdrawing from the Border Conference in 1956, the Red Raiders won five conference championships and one co-championship. -- what is a co-championship?
 * Its a shared title. Two teams have the same results regardless of head-to-head match ups. I had the same question come up during the last list I had in FLC.
 * The university remained in the SWC until the conference ceased operations in 1996 when the Red Raiders ended the 1995–96 season ranked #8 in both the AP (Associated Press) Poll and Coaches' Poll. - comma after 1996
 * Fixed. Thanks. NThomas (talk) 20:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * List
 * The only thing I see that catches my eye is why do some of the columns have no columns, and later on they have columns with dashes. Does this mean that the award of whatever did not exist until the dashes columns?
 * That's exactly right. I feel that is the best way to convey the message that there was no possible entry for that category where the dash means it was possible but not achieved.
 * Can you note that somewhere? I just feel the reader should know this beforehand.-- T ru  c o   503 03:44, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've added notes in the header of the table explaining the conference wins, losses, & final standings, and the dates the polls began being published. NThomas (talk) 20:04, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * References
 * I don't know if its possible for you to have the link of the university appear in all the refs, such as in ref # 2? In addition to the link to the Big 12 in ref #1?
 * Done. The refs all have been wikilinked. NThomas (talk) 20:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

-- T ru  c o   503 03:09, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues resolved; now meets WP:WIAFL. T ru  c o   503 01:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
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