Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of The Secret Saturdays episodes/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 23:00, 12 March 2010.

List of The Secret Saturdays episodes

 * Nominator(s): Twilight   Helryx  21:22, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because after working on this for some time and comparing it with a few other similar lists, I believe that it meets the FL criteria. Twilight  Helryx  21:22, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment "This is a list of episodes of The Secret Saturdays..." Featured lists don't begin like this. Please see recently promoted lists, such as List of Baccano! episodes and List of Supernatural episodes for examples of more engaging starts. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well that's odd, because the List of Yu Yu Hakusho episodes began that way. But I understand and will fix that in a second. Thanks for the comment. =) -- Twilight  Helryx  02:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Done -- Twilight  Helryx  02:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the Yu Yu Hakusho list was promoted more than two years ago, and standards have risen a lot since then (perhaps I should have said "Featured lists don't begin like this anymore") . Also, I removed the done template; we don't use them at FLC because they slow down load time and clutter the FLC pages. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Sorry about that. For the FL standards, apparently they're not the only ones that have risen. ;P Anyway, is there anything else that needs fixing?-- Twilight  Helryx  02:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, as an FL director (i.e. editor who archives these discussions), I like to stay uninvolved on FLCs so that I don't have to worry about having a conflict of interest. However, if this FLC doesn't get many reviews in the next two weeks or so, I'll take a look. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood. Thanks!-- Twilight  Helryx  03:10, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment: The citations need to be fully filled out (half are okay but half are bare URLs). Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 08:06, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I haven't reviewed the episode prose yet, just thought I'd get you something to be getting on with. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't know where to look. Could you tell me? ^^" -- Twilight  Helryx  03:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The list of dab links is here. FYI, the toolbox is at the right hand corner of this page. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:50, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * facepalm* that goes to show what an idiot I am. Anyway, Done.-- Twilight  Helryx  03:12, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I believe I've addressed all the issues brought up. If it's all right, can this be passed before Friday (Feb 26) as soon as there's enough support? Because, the deadline for Wikicup submissions is that day.-- Twilight  Helryx  03:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't feel this article is ready to be promoted. Here are a few things that need to be worked on-
 * Comments from J Milburn
 * Seem to be a number of unreferenced statements in the lead; could you please make sure everything is referenced?
 * Done I think...-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Image seems a little large- could it possibly be reduced?
 * Done-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * "Saturdays search" Apostrophe?
 * Done-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * "a fact that not even Zak was aware of" -> "a fact of which not even Zak was aware"
 * Fixed-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * "on Zak and" Who? Link to article on the character, or at least an entry on a list?
 * Done


 * Rather than the hidden comment, can we have the fact that there are only two seasons referenced in the article?
 * Done: Removed comment and replaced old ref with a clearer one.-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Please add italics in the image caption.
 * Done


 * Not wild about the references in the section headings
 * Done-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Random italics in references
 * Fixed-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * References one and two are incomplete
 * The article seems to rely entirely on primary sources, most of them forum and blog posts. I'm not sure if this is generally ok for featured lists, but it's certainly something with which I would not be happy in a regular article. This is telling me just to oppose and be done with it, but my lack of familiarity with FLC is holding me back.
 * Well, the sources are from the show's creator, Jay Stevens. There are no others more reliable than from him.-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That's not actually how it works. Please read our guidelines on reliable sourcing. J Milburn (talk) 09:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ref 7, "see comments" is not part of the title. If you are citing a particular comment, cite that particular comment.
 * Done


 * Sources- Cartoon Network? What?
 * Done: Got rid of it.-- Twilight  Helryx  03:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

These comments come without even looking at the main body of the list (fact-checking and copyediting as appropriate). This really doesn't feel like a good FLC to me. J Milburn (talk) 12:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there not a category for the show?


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