Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Twenty20 International records/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Hahc21 10:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC).

List of Twenty20 International records

 * Nominator(s): Blackhole78 (talk) 04:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all FL criteria. With the explosion of Twenty20 cricket, keeping a list of some of its more memorable statistics and achievements is warranted. Blackhole78 (talk) 04:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Oppose in summary, this article fails the FL criteria on a number of points at this time.  Harrias  talk 08:57, 2 June 2013 (UTC) Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 23:19, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comments from  Harrias  talk
 * "..having a limit in the number of overs. The limit of overs is 20 overs per innings." – This would be much better merged into one sentence; at the moment it seems a very awkward construction.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 21:54, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * "T20I cricket is Twenty20 cricket, so statistics and records set in T20I matches also count toward Twenty20 records." – Again, this sounds very awkward.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 21:57, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * "The earliest match now recognised as a T20I was played between New Zealand and Australia in 17 February 2005;" – Was the match not recognised as a T20I at the time?
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 21:58, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * England, Ireland, Zimbabwe, Brendom McCullum, Ajantha Mendis, Yuvraj Singh and Richard Levi all needed linking on their first usage.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 22:09, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't like the list of "Notable T20I records" in the second paragraph; written like that it is no more interesting than the actual lists below. The paragraph needs to flow a lot more.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 22:09, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * New Zealand doesn't need linking in the third paragraph, because it was already linked in the first. In contrast, Ross Taylor does.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 22:10, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Listing Criteria should take a lower-case 'c'. I also don't understand what the criteria means: does "last five" mean "top five"? Even so, I don't think it needs its own section.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 22:14, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The Cricket article style guide shows that you should use a slash, not a dash for scores, so it should be 300/3, not 300–3, and similarly for the bowling notation.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 22:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Link not out in the Listing notation section.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 22:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In each sub-heading of the Listing notation section, "notation" should take a lower-case "n".
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 22:55, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Bold should not be used for emphasis, and therefore should not be used to show players still active in T20I. (By the way, it says ODI in the notation, but I assume you mean T20I?)
 * Fixed, using double daggers instead.Blackhole78 (talk) 23:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The tables are missing row and column scopes, as per MOS:DTT
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 23:53, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I would prefer for the flags to be removed myself, I think they are massively overused, but I know I tend to be in the minority on this.
 * I want to build consensus on this first before I do anything.Blackhole78 (talk) 23:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Refs 2, 6, 7 and 9 aren't coded properly.
 * FixedBlackhole78 (talk) 23:55, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In Greatest win margin (by balls remaining), Newlands is linked incorrectly.
 * Fixed.Blackhole78 (talk) 23:56, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In Most consecutive wins and Most consecutive defeats there is a note that "No Results are treated the same as losses and ties in the above table.", but I don't think any explanation has been given as to what a "No Result" is.
 * Fixed.Blackhole78 (talk) 23:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * As far as Greatest win margin (by balls remaining), the venue column lists the ground and the city, but from Highest innings totals the venue is piped in the name of the city.
 * Fixed.Blackhole78 (talk) 00:04, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * For the individual records, put the players national team in a different column with the flag; otherwise it takes a lot of effort to tell the difference between an Australian and a Kiwi.
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 03:40, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Consistently use endashes in time spans, rather than hyphens.
 * Fixed.  Black hole78 ( talk  |  contrib ) 00:21, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The "Last updated" row is centred in Highest career strike rate, where it is left-aligned in all the rest.
 * -- Black hole78  talk 00:32, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it would be worth including who the Highest 50s and Highest 100s were scored against.
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 00:43, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * What does a "‡" indicate? It suddenly appears half-way down the table, but there is no key for it. For screen-readers, you should use ‡ to generate such a symbol, as they won't necessarily pick it up otherwise.
 * They indicate which players have not retired from T20I cricket.-- Black hole78  talk 00:43, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Best figures in a match has columns Player, Batting Team, Venue; while the table below, for the same information really, has Player, Match, Venue. Be consistent.
 * Fixed. -- Black hole78  talk 00:47, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In Highest partnerships, the top partnership is: "170 (2st wicket)": is that the 1st, or the 2nd wicket?
 * Fixed. -- Black hole78  talk 00:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The two tables for partnerships, which are in essence giving very similar information, are laid out in completely different formats. Be consistent.
 * Actually, the different structures of the tables are necessary because they highlight slightly different information. The first table highlights the highest partnership in terms of runs irrespective of what wicket the partnership was for. That is why runs is the left-most column. The second table specifically looks at the best partnership for a specific partnership. That is why the partnership is the left-most column. -- Black hole78  talk 00:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I can see that, and have no problem with it. The problem is the right-hand end. One table has Batting Team, Opposition, Venue, Season, and the other has Batting Team, Opponent, Venue, Date. In the Opposition and Opponent columns, one has "v (FLAG) Country", while the other just has "Country".  Harrias  talk 06:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Fixed. -- Black hole78  talk 01:05, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Further comments
 * Be consistent through the tables about whether to use "Opposition" or "Opponent" as a column title.
 * Used opposition.-- Black hole78  talk 05:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In Greatest win margin (by runs), the fourth venue has been coded wrongly. Also, why does that Venue also list the country, where the others do not?
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 05:36, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In Greatest win margin (by balls remaining), the fourth venue has been coded wrongly.
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 05:37, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * For team records such as Highest innings totals, Most runs in the second innings to win etc, I think it would be more appropriate to list the teams in different columns; "Team", "Opposition/Opponent"
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 05:51, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Throughout, "Dubai(DSC)" should have a space, "Dubai (DSC)".
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 06:01, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In Lowest innings totals, it is referred to merely as "Dubai".
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 06:01, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Similarly, "Colombo(RPS)" should have a space, "Colombo (RPS)".
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 06:01, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Why are the venues not linked in the Most consecutive wins etc tables, given they are linked elsewhere?
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 22:59, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Some of the headings are emboldened (Most runs in the second innings to win for example), while most are not.
 * All headings are now unbonldened.-- Black hole78  talk 23:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In some places, Ireland has a flag, but in others it does not.
 * Highest individual score is formatted differently to Fastest 50 (in terms of the Opposition column.)
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 23:23, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Highest average and Highest career strike rate both centralise the Team column, which is inconsistent with the other tables.
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 01:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Make sure all the Venue links go to the right venue. At least one goes to the wrong venue, and another goes to the city instead. Also make sure they are all linked; a couple are plain text.  Harrias  talk 15:00, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 01:22, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Comments –
 * In each table with the heading "Batting Team" (there are several), the second word shouldn't be capitalized.
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 04:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Same goes for the second word of "Strike Rate" in the Highest career strike rate table.
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 04:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There's a second References section that's empty. That clearly doesn't belong here.
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 04:17, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * See also should come before the references. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 01:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed.-- Black hole78  talk 04:18, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


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