Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of UAAP Final Four results


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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 00:41, 25 January 2009.

List of UAAP Final Four results
I believe this is ready for FL - don't let the article history fool you, it has been sitting at UAAP Final Four until I decided to bring it into its own article since the parent article is getting long already. I hope the quirkiness of the playoff format is understood well. – Howard  the   Duck  09:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment Note that we do not start lists as "This is a list of..." Dabomb87 (talk) 13:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. – Howard  the   Duck  03:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

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 * This is a list of the University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) men's basketball Final Four results. - FL's are discouraged to begin with "This is a list of ____"
 * Done, see above. – Howard  the   Duck  03:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The list includes UAAP men's basketball games played under the Final Four format since the 1994 season, a year after the format was instituted. - This not "the" In addition, move it towards the end of the prose.
 * Done, see above. – Howard  the   Duck  03:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The results include one-game playoffs where teams tied after the elimination round for a Final Four berth played an extra game to determine which team clinches the higher seed in the playoffs. - This is a run-on/fragment, and needs revision. In addition, it needs to be moved later into the article.
 * I've joined with the first paragraph since in effect there are 5, not 4 teams in the postseason. – Howard  the   Duck  03:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Since the UAAP is not a home-and-away league, the position of season host rotates among member universities, and the host pays for the arena rental and other facilities. - link to "home-and-away league" or an explanation to what it means? In addition, source for this statement?
 * Done, see above. Most Filipino leagues do not employ the home-and-away system. In quick inspection of the references they tell you that the games are not played in the home arenas of the teams but in a neutral venue; even all teams play in Ateneo's home gym so it is not really exclusively theirs.– Howard  the   Duck  03:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The league uses a modified Shaughnessy playoff system: the top four teams enter the playoffs, while the he top two seeds are given the "twice-to-beat" advantage, that is, in order for them to be eliminated in the semifinals, they have to be beaten twice by the #3 and #4 seed, with them needing to win only once in order to advance. - another fragment/run-on, needs revision.
 * I've split them into multiple shorter sentences. The reason I placed them in a long sentence is that the thought/process of the tournament should be explained in one sentence, but it got too long. I could say "it is a de facto best-of-three series, with the higher seed having an automatic 1-0 lead" but I thought it was too jargon-y, with the concept of the "best-of-x" series not readily used in tournaments outside North America. – Howard  the   Duck  05:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of WP:JARGON, and some of the statements a reader that is unfamiliar with, like "the sweep" "UST"
 * Sweep is linked. I'll be de-jargonizing the acronyms. – Howard  the   Duck  03:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * For some reason, there is satisfactorily way of flagging the reader right away on what definition of "sweep" should be read on the Sweep article. However, the meaning has been explained even before it is linked so I don't think it should be that big of a problem. – Howard  the   Duck  05:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Starting 2001, each game was played with four 10 minute quarters and a 24 second shot clock. Games before 2001 were played with two 20 minute halves and a 30 second shot clock. - add in before "2001"
 * Done. – Howard  the   Duck  05:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The notes (1-3) need verification by sources
 * Huh? This is a newspaper. This is a reliable source. – Howard  the   Duck  03:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * He meant the notes right under the table, not the references.— Chris!  {{sub| c  t }} 19:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah. That's what I meant.-- Tru co  22:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't nest a referenced footnote within a explanatory note -- the 2005 and 2007 notes are explained in the lead, however. The 2001 is pretty easy to find references since FIBA changed the rules from 2 halves to 4 quarters in 2000. – Howard  the   Duck  01:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The reference section needs to be in a {{tl|reflist}} format, not a {{#tag:nowiki| parameter, and the company that owns the publication in the   parameter. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd just ditch the "work" parameter and change it with "publication". It'll be redundant to see two similar items in the references. – Howard  the   Duck  03:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Support — Chris!  {{sub| c  t }} 03:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
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