Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of United States Naval Academy alumni (Legislators)


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 21:57, 21 March 2009.

List of United States Naval Academy alumni (Legislators)

 * Nominator(s):  — Rlevse • Talk  • 

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the criteria. It is a full list of all US Naval Academy graduates who became legislators. It is the third in a set of four lists of USNA alumni. All images are free licensed. All entries have refs. I'm in WikiCup.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 02:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support — Excellent work. Well-cited, the images appear to have correct copyright information, and the topic appears to be complete. My only concern is that the title of the article gave me the impression that state legislators also would be included. Since this only includes U.S. federal legislators, might I suggest a title change to List of United States Naval Academy alumni (U.S. Legislators)? JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You missed Roilo Golez who is listed. He's one of the foreign USNA alums and was a legislator in his native Philippines. I thought that something like (national level legislators) was awkard so just went with (Legislators). I've added "or its equivalent in their native country" to the first sentence of the second paragraph. — Rlevse • Talk  • 11:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Works for me. JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments from 
 * Lead
 * The Naval Academy is an undergraduate college in Annapolis, Maryland that educates and commissions officers of the Navy and Marine Corps. -- Why isn't the Navy linked?
 * Oops, fixed.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 01:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The Academy is often is referred to as Annapolis. Sports media refer to the Academy as Navy and the students as Midshipmen; this usage is officially endorsed.[ -- How about, "The Academy is often is referred to as Annapolis, while sports media refer to the Academy as Navy and the students as Midshipmen; this usage is officially endorsed."
 * Fixed.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 02:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The curricula emphasizes engineering fields. -- what does this mean? and why is it relevant to this list about Legislators?
 * Not trying to be facetious but it means it's heavy in engineering, as all the service academies are. It is relevant as it shows the nature of the school and the curricula that all students must take. IE, the academies are not liberal arts schools.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 02:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It would be better worded as "emphasizes in engineering fields" or "emphasizes in the field of engineering"-- ₮ RU  C Ө   03:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have to disagree "emphasizes in engineering fields"  is awkward and "emphasizes in the field of engineering" is inaccurate because there is more than one type of engineering. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> •  Talk  • 04:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also note that List of United States Naval Academy alumni (Astronauts) has already been promoted to FL with that exact wording so I really feel the wording is quite fine. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess I must have missed that when I reviewed it =P.-- ₮ RU  C Ө   15:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Currently three alumni are members of Congress: Senator John McCain, Class of 1958, Senator James H. Webb, Jr., Class of 1968, and Representative Joe Sestak, Class of 1974. Roilo Golez, Class of 1970, served as a Congressman in his native country, the Philippines. -- instead of listing the classes after comma after comma, it would be best to have them in parenthesis like "John McCain (Class of 1958).
 * Done.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 02:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * An overall count of legislators should be given in the lead.
 * See first three words of lead. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 02:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Legislators
 * Why aren't the name columns and year class sortable?
 * Good question, something must have happened to the template. I asked the writer.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 01:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * An "oops" by the code writer. He fixed already. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 01:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok.-- ₮ RU  C Ө   03:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The "year" column should be renamed to "Year of grad." or a footnote should be given that it explains as to what year they graduated.
 * It is not always year of graduation. In time of war classes graduate early. For example, the "Class of 1943" actually graduated in 1942. The service academies always refer to their Class year, not the year of graduation, though that's usually the same year. I'll add a footnote on this to each article in this topic to explain this. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> •  Talk  • 01:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, but how about naming it "Class year" or something like that.-- ₮ RU  C Ө   03:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Because the template is used for more than just service academies. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 04:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh okay.-- ₮ RU  C Ө   15:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: Admiral; Senator from Connecticut (1945–1946); veteran on the Spanish-American War, World War I, and World War II; commander of United States Asiatic Fleet at the outbreak of World War II; instructor at the Academy; -- remove the final semi-colon
 * done. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 01:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Remove one of the images, it stretches the section and gives it more unneeded white space.
 * done. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 01:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * References
 * General ref A needs a publisher
 * caused by a typo, fixed. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 01:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

-- ₮ RU  C Ө   23:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues found in review have been resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards.-- ₮ RU  C Ө   15:32, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The web title in ref 32 needs to be converted to title case, even if the original title was in all caps. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 22:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm wondering if the references for specific statements should go in the notability section after the corresponding sentence. It might be more useful because if you want the source that confirms that Jeremiah Denton was a Rear Admiral, there are four to choose from. -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  21:01, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * None of the other USNA alum lists are done like that and wouldn't it be defeating the purpose of a refs column? I guess it's not a huge deal but for me I like the format and consistency of all refs in the refs column. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 21:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I always thought that the refs column was more for when the entire row was covered by once source and there was nowhere else to put it. I suppose you are right though. This is unrelated (so you can reply on my talk page if you prefer), but I was wondering what you thought about my recent comments. -- Scorpion <sup style="color:black;">0422  21:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


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