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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 19 July 2021 (UTC).

List of World Heritage Sites in Vietnam

 * Nominator(s): Damian Vo (talk) 14:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

A list covers the UNESCO World Heritage Sites in Vietnam. I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all of the FL criteria. Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Damian Vo (talk) 14:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank u so much :D Damian Vo (talk) 14:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Table accessibility review (MOS:DTAB): The table is missing a caption (you have one in the key, but not the main tables).
 * Please add `|+ table caption` to the top of the table, or if it would duplicate a nearby section header you can visually hide the caption as `|+ `
 * -- Pres N  14:22, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Added. Damian Vo (talk) 02:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I like that the lead has a couple sources that tie them together as a set of places the government oversees for tourism. Cite [5] did not open for me, however.
 * Fixed. 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Damian Vo (talk)


 * The table titles don't need to restate the column headings, "World Heritage Sites" and "Tentative sites" would be fine
 * Fixed. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I merged the refs into the description like other WHS FLs, they don't need their own column
 * "It is considered by UNESCO" is unnecessary, you can just describe this as a fact with a citation.
 * Removed. Damian Vo (talk)


 * "center of the regional political power of Đại Việt for almost thirteen centuries" is very close to the source, please paraphrase more in your own words.
 * Done. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "started when Lý Công Uẩn moved the capital of Đại Việt in 1910" in the note [a] is weird grammar, not entirely sure what this means, 1910–2010 is a century
 * I removed this note altogether since it seems a little bit unnecessary to the article. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Is 1397 considered "ancient"? the source doesn't call the city that.
 * Removed. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "Having suffered from the effects of three wars" should be preceded by "Despite"
 * Done. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Karst is a topography or descriptor, not a countable object, so "1600 limestone pillars, karsts..." doesn't make sense
 * Fixed. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Laos' -> Laos's per MOS:POSS
 * Fixed. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "one of the most outstanding limestone karst ecosystems in the world" and "contains terrestrial and aquatic habitats, primary and secondary forest" is too close to the source, please avoid copying
 * "Exploration of caves has revealed archaeological traces of human activity for more than 30,000 years, ranging through the Neolithic and Bronze Ages to the historical era" same
 * The average WHS description is shorter than the average tentative site's; consider adding a little to the shorter ones.
 * Some of the Tentative sites contain a list of group areas submitted for consideration, therefore it looks longer but still carries the same amount of sentences as the WHS description. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)


 * "The most common patterns are images of mountains, hills, and fields" Again, this is lifted directly from the source, which is actually copyrighted.
 * "three kinds of writing system: the pictographs of Han Chinese, as well as talismans of Tày and Dao ethnic group" skip "as well as" because you've introduced a three-item list
 * Removed. Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Reywas92Talk 01:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "historical-cultural relics, many traditions and beliefs that are of both tangible and intangible heritage values" same
 * Biodiversity is one word; "example of mature karst in sub-tropical wet conditions" same
 * "The Hương Sơn Complex comprises three groups of pagodas, temples, and caves linked with one another by waterways" same
 * Thank you for your helpful comments. I tried to give the sentences mentioned above a little tweak. Please have a look :D Damian Vo (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Reywas92Talk 18:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments That's enough from me. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 18:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "the 17th session of the World Heritage Committee held in Colombia in 1993." where is that referenced?
 * "the first and only mixed site in Southeast Asia" source says first but not only, and in any case is 6 years old.
 * "centuries.[9][4]" order.
 * "considered a remarkable construction" by whom?
 * "caves.[15][14]" order.
 * "over 1600" more than.
 * "significant slice of" not encyclopedic in tone, more like a guidebook.
 * "one of the most magnificent limestone" according to whom? Encyclopedia, not guidebook.
 * "passage.[22][21]" order.
 * Sortable tables should link linked items every time, e.g. karst.
 * "established here in" no need for "here".
 * 1438 is 1438bis.
 * "As of 2019" it's 2021, is this still the case?
 * "old carved" old?!
 * "200 old carved stones and megaliths. Stones are carved with different " -> " 200 stones and megaliths, carved with different..."
 * "with lots of" not encyclopedic tone.
 * "The Yến Tử Monuments and Landscapes" I can't see (vii) in the English source and can't read Vietnamese...
 * "geologic" why not geological?
 * "the vii criteria" criterion (vii).
 * satisfies the viii criteria likewise.
 * General: singular of criteria is criterion.
 * Ref 41 has two spaced hyphens, should be en-dashes.
 * Thanks a lot for the review! I just resolved the queries above, please have a look :D Damian Vo (talk) 05:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi it's been two months since your review :D Let me know if you have any more comments. Damian Vo (talk) 05:59, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Source review – Pass
Will do soon. Aza24 (talk) 23:10, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Formatting
 * There's quite a few retrieval dates missing


 * Reliability
 * No issues


 * Verifiability
 * Checked a few, no issues
 * Since the refs are all archived, the missing retrieval dates aren't pertinent enough to prevent a pass (though I would still recommend adding them). Pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 23:14, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Added missing retrieval dates. Damian Vo (talk) 17:35, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Comments from HAL
That's all I got. ~ HAL  333  22:18, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Complex of Huế Monuments As you do later in the list, I would place "the" before it.
 * the sites became tourist destinations and used as a driving force for the development of tourism in Vietnam is a little awkward. I would reword.
 * Gave it a little tweak. Thank you for the comments. Damian Vo (talk) 09:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Support ~ HAL  333  16:53, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 22:11, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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