Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of World of Darkness video games/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 05:41:55 29 December 2019 (UTC).

List of World of Darkness video games

 * Nominator(s): Alexandra IDVtalk 18:06, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list, having done my best to satisfy the FL criteria. The list covers all video games in the World of Darkness series – including those game projects that were announced but never finished – organized by sub-series, and with annotations providing information about each entry. Although I have done several GAs and one FA before, this is my first time going through the FLC process, so I hope that I have not made any obvious mistakes, and appreciate any advice and constructive criticism.--Alexandra IDVtalk 18:06, 20 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Comments from Captain Medusa
 * Add a short description.
 * Once the short description is added I will more than happy to support the list.  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  12:23, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Done - this is something new to me, so I hope the description is satisfactory.--Alexandra IDVtalk 13:04, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I Support this nomination. I have also nominated List of accolades received by Undertale for featured list; your feedback is welcome. CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  13:07, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Cheers! I will take a look at your nomination later tonight.--Alexandra IDVtalk 13:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Support - couldn't spot any issues -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:59, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Support – looks great to me – zmbro (talk) 03:53, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Comments from Spy-cicle

 * IGN should be in italics.
 * IGN is in italics when referring to the work, and not when referring to IGN the company, which is the publisher of the website GameSpy.--AlexandraIDV 20:52, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh I see, that is fine then.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 21:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I do not think that Metacritic needs to be in italics.
 * This is to my knowledge just how the website parameter of Template:Cite web works, and I don't know how I can circumvent that, or if I should be doing that.--AlexandraIDV 20:52, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I suppose it does not really matter, perhaps I am being pedantic. The only thing that really needs changing is some of the sources to the release dates.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 21:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I have noticed that some of the release dates are sourced from sources prior to their release. Per WP:VG/RELEASE Release dates should be discussed in the body of the article (typically, as a section within "Development" or "Release"), and should include citations published after the game or content has been released to verify that the product came out as expected. Game reviews may be suitable for this, but not pre-release reviews. Once those sources are swapped I will happily support this nomination - Great work. Regards  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 20:30, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I will take a look at these.--AlexandraIDV 20:52, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * FYI: I looked at the MOS, and am not 100% sure on how it is actually meant to be interpreted. I started a thread on the VG MOS talk page about it and am hoping for clarification/input from other editors, so if it takes a while before I get to this point, it's because I'm waiting for a response and not because I have forgotten or abandoned it.--AlexandraIDV 21:18, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries, after all Wikipedia has no deadlines (I put my personal interpretation on the thread already but either should be fine; but it will be interesting to know what other editors think for future reference).  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 21:48, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Took a little longer than I would've wanted it to due to housesitting for my parents, and my girlfriend visiting from overseas, but I believe the release date thing is taken care of now.--AlexandraIDV 19:25, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem, after all Wikipedia has no deadlines. Defintely looks better. Here are a few things I found on a final check:
 * For Vampire: The Masquerade – Redemption. On the page it states there was a 2001 MacOS release. I think it should be reflected under the Release years by system.
 * Cheers, I missed this.--AlexandraIDV 11:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Confirmed fix.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 12:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * For Vampire: The Masquerade – Coteries of New York's release date it will be better if you used a citation after its release like this one as I do not know how reliable GOG.com is.
 * GOG is a publishing platform - the source is by the game's publisher, not by GOG itself.--AlexandraIDV 11:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Under WP:VG/RS Retailers it essentially states when secondary sources are avaliable like IGN they should be used if available as opposed to digital distrubution platforms.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 12:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair, switched to IGN. Did the same for Bloodlines and Redemption.--AlexandraIDV 10:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Great. Confirmed.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 15:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * For Hunter: The Reckoning Please add this ciation since the IGN source does not actually specify which day in May it released: . Also please replace the Gamezone citaiton with this one since I am not sure how reliable it is.
 * The Quick Facts box in the bottom of the article says May 21, 2002. WP:VG/RS says Gamezone is reliable, with the description Recommended as an objective and reliable gaming site in books, and referenced for several of its articles in various books and scholarly works., so it seems to be fine.--AlexandraIDV 11:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh I see for some reason it only appears in the archived version (might be because it redirects me to www.uk.ign.com instead of www.ign.com).  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 12:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * For World of Darkness Preludes: Vampire and Mage are Steam release dates verifable and allowed? Either way if you could please try to supplement them with another source since other sources strangely have a two day gap from its release date, . With one stating it released on the 16 Feb 2017. Though, this may be because of its staggered release across platforms. Regards  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 22:20, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Like GOG, Steam is a publishing platform, so the information there is supplied by the game's publisher directly. The GameItAll and RPS sources you link don't actually say the game came out on the 17th - that's just when those articles were published - so I'm assuming it's just a case of WoD Preludes being a small release that these publications didn't get to straight away. Indiegala is just one day off, and is also a storefront, so I think it may either be a staggered release (and so irrelevant, we're just talking original releases) or a time zone thing.--AlexandraIDV 11:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Like with GOG when another secondary source can be found use it. I managed to find one from GameSpot which stated 15 Feb .  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 12:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * GameSpot's overview pages are unreliable as they're shared with GameFAQs and are user-contributed, and I'm unable to find any usable source at all for Preludes' release beyond what's already there, so it should be okay in this instance as the best available source. I also responded to the Coteries/GOG thing above.--AlexandraIDV 10:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I completely forgot about this. I suppose since we can use Steam here since there is no other source which is more reliable than it.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 15:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Responded to your comments.--AlexandraIDV 11:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , All issues have been addressed. I now Support this nomination, great work on this list. (I also have an FLC open and your comments would be appreciated).  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 15:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Cheers. I am a bit uncertain on how we're handling accolades lists going forward and am hesitant to comment on those FLCs specifically; I will have to read through the recent discussions more thoroughly first.--AlexandraIDV 16:08, 28 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Source review – I don't see any reliability or formatting issues aside from the ones mentioned above, and the link-checker tool shows no issues. When Spy is satisfied that their comments are resolved, we can go ahead and call this source review a pass. By the way, if you ever want to avoid italicizing the publisher in the future, all you have to do is use the publisher= parameter of the template instead of website=. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 22:16, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much--AlexandraIDV 10:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Reviewed this prior to nomination and am good to promote. -- Pres N  05:41, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


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