Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of accolades received by Red Dead Redemption 2/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 06:47:44 6 November 2019 (UTC).

List of accolades received by Red Dead Redemption 2

 * Nominator(s): – Rhain  ☔ 08:50, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all aspects of the FL criteria, comprehensively covering the many year-end accolades received by Red Dead Redemption 2 while also following accessibility guidelines. I believe that list is good to go all the way, and would appreciate your thoughts. – Rhain  ☔ 08:50, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Support from ChrisTheDude

 * Comments
 * Only had time to look at the lead so far, here are my comments:
 * "based on based on 98 reviews" - duplicated words there
 * "largest ever preorders" - hyphen in "pre-orders"?
 * "and named runner-up in four" => "and was named runner-up in four"
 * "won for Excellence in SFX and Technical Achievement" - need a full stop after this
 * That's it for the lead, will look at the table later -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:54, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * More comments
 * My only comments on the table are:
 * The standard format for recent similar FLs (such as List of awards and nominations received by Kylie Minogue) is to have the columns in the order Award,Year (not full date, although I guess there's no harm in full date being used), then the rest, as well as to rowspan the award title and year/date
 * The sorting on the "result" column seems a bit odd to me. When I sort on that column it goes Gold/Nominated/Fourth/Runner-up/Second/Third/Won.  I would have thought it should be either alphabetical or else reflect "finishing order" (so "won" would appear before "second" or "third")
 * That's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:28, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your comments, . I've addressed your issues with the lead. Good catch with the sorting on the "Result" column; I've reorganised it so it's now sorted by Nominated/Fourth/Third/Runner-up/Second/Gold/Won. Regarding the format: I've based this article on previous video game FLs (Grand Theft Auto V, The Last of Us) but if you feel that the list should follow the format used for artists, actors, and films, I can make the changes. – Rhain  ☔ 00:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair comment - if other people are OK with the current format then that's fine. I simply did a quick look for recent awards FLs, I didn't look specifically for video game ones.  I note that the two you link to above were both promoted more than four years ago, so it's possible that the consensus on format has changed since then. -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Those two lists are actually the only video gaming FLs for awards, so that's as recent as the consensus gets for WP:VG, though I certainly understand your point. – Rhain  ☔ 07:47, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess, like you say, it boils down to whether people think video game lists should follow the format of other, more recent, promotions. Like I said, it's not a deal-breaker for me, but I'd be interested to see what other people think, if that's cool........ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:16, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. Looking forward to seeing what other people think. – Rhain  ☔ 12:22, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , I've thrown together an example of what the article would look like if it followed the conventions of a standard film accolades FL; feel free to check it out on my workspace. – Rhain  ☔ 13:10, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It has to be said, I do prefer that format...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm inclined to agree. I've made the change. – Rhain  ☔ 02:11, 24 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Support Comments from Aoba47
Otherwise, everything else looks great. Once my comments are addressed, I will be more than happy to support this for promotion. I hope this helps. Aoba47 (talk) 02:10, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Any reason why Roger Clark is not wikilinked in the lead or in the table? The same question applies to Arthur Morgan.
 * I would wikilink Grand Theft Auto V in the lead.
 * I believe GameSpot, news.com.au, and USgamer should be in italics.
 * I would wikilink Alex McKenna.
 * For reference 24, I would avoid putting Edge in all caps.
 * Thanks, . The articles for Roger Clark and Arthur Morgan didn't exist when I wrote the article, which explains their absences (and I have doubts that the latter article will remain for long, but that's for another discussion). I've gone through and addressed all of your concerns. Let me know if you have any more thoughts. – Rhain  ☔ 02:18, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your very prompt responses. I support this for promotion. If you have the time, I would greatly appreciate any feedback for my current FLC. Either way, have a great rest of your week, and good luck with this nomination. Aoba47 (talk) 02:21, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Support from Wrath X
I'm fine with either format, though I'm leaning towards the film table format since the awards look "neater" (due to them being listed only once per column) and I'm kind of biased to alphabetical order. But like I said, I'm fine with either so I have no problems with the current one. Either format, I support this for promotion -- Wrath X (talk) 01:04, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Support from You've gone incognito

 * Review aggregator Metacritic assigned the game a normalized score of 97 out of 100, indicating "universal acclaim" Rewrite this to "On the review-aggregation website Metacritic, the game received 'universal acclaim', with an overall weighted average score of 97 out of 100." Metacritic doesn't actually calculate normalized scores but weighted average of reviews from professional critics and publications: https://www.metacritic.com/faq#item18 Please modify that footnote, too.
 * The game had the largest opening weekend in the history of entertainment, making over $725 million in revenue in three days, and selling over 17 million copies in total in two weeks. Eliminate these superfluous "in revenue" and "in total"
 * What's with the overlinking to the RDR 2 article in the table? Is this the standard to FL candidates?  You've gone incognito  (talk &sdot; contribs) 05:29, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments, . I've made some changes based on your suggestions. The overlinking seems fairly common for some featured lists, both for video games and feature films, I presume due to accessibility purposes. – Rhain  ☔ 05:45, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I see. Consider the above issues resolved. As it stands listicle is comprehensive, well sourced and written. I give the nomination my support.  You've gone incognito  (talk &sdot; contribs) 09:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Support from zmbro

 * Support – Great list for an amazing game. Great job on this! Good luck to you with the other RDR2 pages at GAN! :-) – zmbro (talk) 23:56, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Comments from Spy-cicle
But generally everything else looks good.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 21:27, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Addition of short description
 * I would suggest having the date in the first left column in line with other FA VG Acolades tables like The Last of Us or Grand Theft Auto V.
 * Thanks, . I've added a short description. The format of the list was changed to fit with some of the more recent FLs for film accolades, which are listed alphabetically instead of chronologically. – Rhain  ☔ 23:57, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the changes; After having a further look this is well made and I would generally Support this nomination to FA.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 22:09, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. -- Pres N  06:47, 6 November 2019 (UTC)


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