Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Demi Lovato/archive1


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List of awards and nominations received by Demi Lovato

 * Nominator(s): Jaberts123 (talk) 03:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I have been making a significant amount of changes to the page to ensure it is around the same layout and inline with similar awards pages of singers and artists. It is referenced well and is easy to navigate with a nice introduction. Jaberts123 (talk) 03:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

You made two FLC nominations with Demi Lovato discography. Unfortunately, we only allow one nomination at a time. CAPTAIN MEDUSA  talk  11:50, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note! Do you know which list would be considered first? --Jaberts123 (talk) 18:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Entirely up to you which one to proceed with, but you need to withdraw one -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * UPDATE nominator withdrew the discography nomination. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:14, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I unfortunately must oppose right now as this still has a long way to go even after addressing the above comments. Sorry, but that's quite a lot of problems to sort through, especially with refence formatting. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Can't say I feel comfortable with the use of File:Demi Lovato 09-16-2017 -8 (36458528123).jpg when it clearly show's the authors name written in the corner, plus it would be best to use pic of Demi attending an award-related event when this page pertains to her accolades
 * No mention in the lead of awards/nominations for Camp Rock, Princess Protection Program, "Give Your Heart a Break", "Made in the USA", "Neon Lights"?
 * "(2009-2011)" should read "(2009–2011)" per WP:DASH
 * Given ChrisTheDude's comments on removing works from the lead that didn't win any awards or even get nominated for them, we can safely omit the Don't Forget album, the "Here We Go Again" song, and the Tell Me You Love Me album. I'd replace the lattermost with how the "Tell Me You Love Me" song won a BMI Pop Award.
 * MOS:FONTSIZE discourages making text appear smaller than it naturally would; doing so needlessly makes it harder on the eyes to read
 * I'm not sure "Listicles" are appropriate or common to include on these types of pages
 * Some citations are still missing titles, accessdates, and publication names. Also, they all should list authors as well as publication dates whenever available.
 * "Celebrity-gossip.net", "Crushable", "CelebMix", "Video Static", and IMDb should be replaced with stronger sources
 * "www.ascap.com" → ASCAP (and don't italicize this acronym)
 * Remove the ".com" from "BMI.com", which also shouldn't have italics
 * "www.neon.hu" → BRAVO OTTO
 * "GRAMMY.com" → Grammy Award
 * Not sure how credible this is, but it either way doesn't even mention "Échame la Culpa"
 * "E! Online" and "Br.eonline.com" should both read as E! (not italicized)
 * You seem to have mislabled "Nickelodeon divulga os indicados da segunda fase do "'Meus Prêmios Nick'" (which translates to "Nickelodeon discloses nominees for the second phase of 'My Nick Awards'" in English) as "Taylor Swift é indicada ao Kids Choice Awards 2015 do México, Colômbia e Brasil", and "taylorswfit.com.br" of that link should read "NaTelinha"
 * "mp3musicawards.co.uk" is redundant when you already have "MP3 Awards" in the citation
 * outdated URL, and "www.mtvema.com" should read MTV Europe Music Award
 * "Mtv.com" and "www.mtv.com" should read as MTV
 * MTV News shouldn't be italicized
 * "EW.com" → Entertainment Weekly
 * Don't italicize MTV Italy
 * "Millennial.mtvla.com" → MTV Millennial Awards
 * "Oceanup.com" → OceanUp (with italics)
 * "PeoplesChoice.com" → People's Choice Awards (a term that shouldn't have italics)
 * Another bad link
 * "awards.realscreen.com." → Realscreen Awards
 * "Shortyawards.com" → Shorty Awards
 * Another outdated link
 * faulty URL that makes no mention of Demi
 * "TVGuide.com" → TV Guide
 * I was able to fix some of the changes you suggested. I moved the small text under the category section of the list and normal text sizing, so for example all of her nominations that featured other artists or were for a TV show/movie were moved under the category for which she was nominated.--Jaberts123 (talk) 03:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: I fixed the references so they have authors first and last, publishers, dates and access dates if applicable for all. I fixed the introduction and took the suggestions to make it better (removing works that did not receive awards and nominations and also added in awards she won for philanthropic work), I added back listicles because they are part of her achievements in her career. I'm still trying to figure out adding in a new photo from an award ceremony she went to.--Jaberts123 (talk) 03:04, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * A new photo has been uploaded onto the page where it shows Lovato at an award ceremony in 2017--Jaberts123 (talk) 20:28, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * File:Demi Lovato, 59th Annual Grammy Awards.jpg unfortunately was a non-free file and WP:Non-free content criteria says such images cannot be used when free images are available, so I boldly replaced it with the properly licensed File:Demi Lovato Backstage Billboard Muisc Awards 2018 (cropped).jpg as that isn't copyrighted. A possible alternative in regards to award show pics is File:Demi Lovato 2, (Cropped).jpg.
 * I used the photo File:Demi Lovato 2, (Cropped).jpg instead.--Jaberts123 (talk) 22:42, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , all comments are resolved and done. Thank you for the help! --Jaberts123 (talk) 03:42, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You still haven't fixed a hyphen/dash issue for Sonny with a Chance in the lead or replaced the subpar sources I mentioned above (aside from IMDb). Additionally, Us Weekly (aka Us Magazine) is a horrid gossip rag that should be avoided, some citations continue to lack accessdates, and I still see improper formatting of references. Furthermore, Demi's own YouTube channel cannot be used as a citation for accolades unlike a video/article that specifically mentions them. Even if "Other accolades" is worth keeping around, there's no point in having a subheading (currently titled "Listicles") when there are no other subsections within the section. SNUGGUMS (talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 04:13, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Fixed again, however will look at the references again and change the formatting. I removed the YouTube Creator Award that was linked to her YouTube account for I could not find a link that mentions the award, there are just pictures of here holding the award. Replaced US Weekly with The Hollywood Reporter. As for the other links the were mentioned to be replaced, there are no other links that show the awards that she won, for example "Celebrity-gossip.net", "Crushable", and "Video Static". Thanks again for all the help --Jaberts123 (talk) 04:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately if there's no reliable source for an award then it will have to be removed. If a big star like Lovato receiving an award wasn't covered by any reliable sources, then if must be a pretty obscure award and probably not really worth mentioning (I notice that at least two of the awards sourced to the sites you mention in the comment above don't even have WP articles)....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That reminds me of another thing; there already is consensus that award ceremonies that don't have or warrant their own Wikipedia pages (e.g. "MVPA Awards", "Open Minds Gala", "Realscreen Awards", "Youth Rock Awards", and "Z Awards" in this case) aren't supposed to be listed on accolade lists anyway. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 12:55, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * All fixed. The awards mentioned above have been removed from the page.--Jaberts123 (talk) 02:29, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Things are looking better when going through again, but citation#2 is malformatted. See Template:Cite tweet for how to properly use tweets as citations, and while their use should be limited, Mike Adam seems OK to use in this case. You still need to replace "Celebrity-gossip.net" (ref#4), not sure PopSugar (ref#104) is high quality, Teen Vogue should be italicized unlike Teen.com (which should be removed from the "Photos: Demi Lovato at the 2011 Do Something Awards" title in ref#26), "Shortyawards.com" from ref#98 is supposed to read as "Shorty Awards", link InStyle for InStyle awards, and remove of JIM Awards, Mental Health Advocacy Award, and MP3 Awards since that ceremony don't seem to have or warrant their own pages. If possible, I'd try to get something other than a Tumblr link for Webby Awards. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 02:13, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you for the help, these have been fixed. However, there is no other link to replace "Celebrity-gossip.net" (ref#4), PopSugar has been replaced, InStyle is linked InStyle, Teen.com is removed from title and is no longer italicized whereas Teen Vogue is still italicized. Shorty Awards is fixed, and I could not find a different link to replace Tumblr link. Thanks again! --Jaberts123 (talk) 20:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome and we now are almost there. If you can't find anything to use in place of celeb-gossip.net for its attributed content, then just remove that listing altogether, and tweets need to be quoted verbatim when citing them. See Cozy Little Christmas and Never Really Over for examples of what I mean. I also forgot to mention that InStyle should have italics for the table listing on its award. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 21:02, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , InStyle and the tweet have both been fixed. I was able to find a proper link to replace celeb-gossip.net! So everything has been fixed! Thank you!--Jaberts123 (talk) 00:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Following major improvements, I now support this nomination. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 01:00, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ! --Jaberts123 (talk) 04:47, 6 August 2020 (UTC)


 * More comments
 * "Lovato released her third studio album Unbroken, releasing two singles" - repetition of "released/releasing". Change the second one to "featuring"
 * ""Skyscraper" won Best Video with a Message and Choice Summer: Song" - according to the article on the awards, the category was called Choice Music: Summer Song, not Choice Summer: Song
 * "was nominated for two awards at the 2012 Teen Choice Awards: Choice Summer Song" and "Choice Love Song"" - why are these category titles suddenly in quote marks (or half quote marks in the case of the first one?
 * "Lovato was nominated for three awards at the 2018 Billboard Music Awards, including Top Female Artist and received" => "Lovato was nominated for three awards at the 2018 Billboard Music Awards, including Top Female Artist, and received"
 * As an aside, Cutest Musician's Pet is possibly the most moronic award I have ever seen in one of these lists, but that's nothing to do with the quality of this article :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:58, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, . All the comments have been fixed. Quotation marks have been removed from award category names, comma was added in 2018 BBMA, releasing was replaced with featuring, and the Teen Choice Award category name was changed! Thank you for all the help! :) --Jaberts123 (talk) 00:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:10, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, for the support. --Jaberts123 (talk) 19:26, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

I will run AutoEd to clean up the article. Gaga Nutella talk 19:15, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comments from GagaNutella:
 * Infobox: Latin Billboard Music Awards and Billboard Touring Awards, Billboard is in italic. GAFFA Awards (Sweden) you don't need to mention Sweden. Glamour Awards, Glamour is in italic. InStyle Awards, InStyle is in italic. Guinness World Records is in italic. Wikilink MTV Millennial Awards Brazil.
 * Table: Wikilink Billboard Touring Awards. Bravo Otto (Hungary) you don't need to mention Hungray. GAFFA Awards (Sweden) you don't need to mention Sweden. Change MTV Millennial Awards (Brazil) to MTV Millennial Awards Brazil. Don't use quote marks on Lovatics. (with ...) or (for...) should be placed on the Recipient(s) and nominee(s) column. Wikilink everything possible on the Category column.
 * MediaWiki:Toc isn't working.
 * Ref: 34: The Grammys isn't in italic. 63: Entertainment Weekly is in italic. 68: Deadline is in italic. 75: it isn't working. 84: change PeoplesChoice.com to People's Choice Awards.
 * Thank you, for the comments! I fixed the People's Choice link, removed the MediaWiki:Toc, however for Billboard, Grammy, Glamour, etc. I was told those were to be in italics. Also, multiple other music artists have Bravo Otto and GAFFA with their respective countries because multiple countries host different GAFFA and Bravo Otto awards. Wikilinked Billboard Touring Awards and MTV Millennial Awards Brazil. Thank you, again! Jaberts123 (talk) 02:48, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Please, do the fixes on the table and then I will support. Gaga Nutella talk 18:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Everything is fixed. Thanks, --Jaberts123 (talk) 20:32, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Still missing: Glamour Awards, Glamour is in italic. InStyle Awards, InStyle is in italic. Guinness World Records is in italic. Wikilink MTV Millennial Awards Brazil. Change MTV Millennial Awards (Brazil) to MTV Millennial Awards Brazil on the table. Gaga Nutella talk 21:15, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't Glamour, Guinness, and InStyle have to be in italics since they are awards from the magazine? Because looking at Gaga's awards, those are italicized, too. Just fixed MTV Brazil, too Jaberts123 (talk) 21:27, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are. But they are incorrect on the infobox. That's the point. Gaga Nutella talk 01:53, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh gosh, I am so sorry. I kept misreading, I thought you meant in the table for some reason. Okay infobox is fixed. My apologies again. Thank you for the help, ! Jaberts123 (talk) 03:20, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support very good! Gaga Nutella talk 04:34, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, --Jaberts123 (talk) 23:11, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Source review - Pass
I'll be back to do this one sometime tomorrow Aza24 (talk) 08:15, 4 September 2020 (UTC) Sorry for getting back to this late, comments:
 * At the moment the most outstanding issue is that some works/publishers/websites are linked, some aren't – it needs to be one way or the other, either is fine Since most are linked I'll list the ones that aren't: Shorty Awards, World Music Award, ASCAP, some of the Billboard, Young Artist Awards and MTV were the ones I found
 * Ref 10 missing author and date
 * What makes refs 18 and 19 reliable?
 * Refs 18 and 19 should have a "|language=Hungarian" parameter (they are missing dates as well)
 * Ref 20 needs a "|language=Portuguese" (translated title, like ref 22, would be nice as well)
 * What makes ref 27 reliable?
 * Not sure how 32 is reliable, the WP page for the site says that users can register to post content
 * ref 44 missing date
 * Author for 73 listed twice
 * Got to 80s, will come back for the rest later
 * Everything else looks good. Reliability is fine. Aza24 (talk) 06:53, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much, . All have been fixed! Jaberts123 (talk) 17:38, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Shoot I totally forgot about this one, doing the rest now. Still unsure how ref 18 is reliable
 * Refs 90 and 91 are the same and should be combined (like how you did for ref 45)
 * ref 92 (Taylor Swift & Justin Bieber Lead Radio Disney Music Awards Nominations) is missing author
 * ref 110 missing author
 * ref 119 missing date
 * That's it for me... fix these small things and you're good
 * Thank you again, ! In terms of Ref. 18, it shows all the nominees for the awards that year, including for Demi's category. Thanks! Jaberts123 (talk) 01:39, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The reason I asked about ref 18 was because it is a blog and blogs are generally unreliable. That being said, since it's citing statistical information I think it's fine, pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 04:26, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, got it! Thank you for clarifying! And thank you for the review, . Jaberts123 (talk) 18:30, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 22:12, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.