Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Gene Roddenberry/archive2


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by SchroCat via FACBot (talk) 23:31, 29 March 2016 (UTC).

List of awards and nominations received by Gene Roddenberry

 * Nominator(s): Miyagawa (talk) 20:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

The previous nomination of this article closed with two supports some 20 days ago. So I'm renominating it in the hope that it'll gather a greater consensus. Miyagawa (talk) 20:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Previous nomination can be seen here: Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Gene Roddenberry/archive1. Miyagawa (talk) 20:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Side note: I have my own Featued List nomination Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship, if anyone would like to drop in and give it the once over.


 * "Couldn't" should be "could not"
 * I am not sure if the details on Ellison taunting them etc. is really relevant for the article. It's about Roddenberry's nominations and awards, not someone else's.
 * "Various Rewards" - should that be "awards"?
 * NASA should be spelled out.
 * Table looks good, sorts well etc.
 * Sources look legit to me too.

- Overall a good list, very few issues jumped out at me. MPJ  -US 02:00, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've fixed those issues. Miyagawa (talk) 10:41, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * - Perfect, Support  MPJ  -US 12:38, 28 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * I think everything from "At the 1967 Writer's Guild of America Awards" right up to note 1 should be its own paragraph; it's odd splitting discussion of one element across two paragraphs which each contain other information as well.
 * I think I did it because of image placement, but having fixed it as suggested, I don't have the same issue that I once did. So that's sorted now. Miyagawa (talk) 18:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Not a comment on your work, but isn't Harlan Ellison just a dislikeable bollock or what?
 * Roddenberry wasn't exactly an Angel with it either, but just about everyone had a go at re-writing that episode. I'm intending to tackle it prior to the 50th Anniversary in September. Still though, if Ellison had just re-written it to reduce the insane budget requirements then everything would have been fine - but mind you, Roddenberry re-wrote everything during that first season so he would probably still have pissed Ellison off anyway. Miyagawa (talk) 18:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, yeah, but we're talking about a man who's been sitting on other writers' unreleased work for decades just because. There's also a funny story out there about him blowing up at a fan at a convention over some jellybeans too. G RAPPLE   X  19:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Use of "Awarded" rather than the standard "won" template is interesting. I will probably steal this somewhere along the line.
 * A few of the awards listed in the table have articles but aren't linked; this seems strange given that some are linked and others not.
 * I think I've added the missing ones. Not sure how I missed those ones. Miyagawa (talk) 18:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Sources seem good, tables seem accessible and images are free and suitably alt-texted.
 * The size and placement of the military medals table makes it initially look like it might be a key rather than its own table; I'm wondering if it might not be a bad idea to draw some focus to it by adding images of the relevant ribbons for these medals as an illustration to the right-hand side. It wouldn't take up much space but it'd be eye-catching enough to show the table is actually its own thing.
 * I think that is a really good idea. I've added it now, and I think it looks really good. Miyagawa (talk) 18:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * All in all this is concise but well done, and I'm leaning towards supporting once you've responded. G RAPPLE   X  15:02, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing. Miyagawa (talk) 18:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Support. G RAPPLE   X  19:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Comments by PresN

Recusing myself as a delegate to review this list:
 * "he was a pilot in the 394th Bomb Squadron, 5th Bombardment Group, of the Thirteenth Air Force, during World War II." - the commas are throwing me here. Maybe "he was a pilot in the 394th Bomb Squadron, 5th Bombardment Group of the Thirteenth Air Force during World War II."
 * "While working in the Los Angeles Police Department, he began his television writing career" -> "While working in the Los Angeles Police Department after the war, he began his television writing career"; you need a transition
 * "So, instead Roddenberry re-wrote the script for the episode, but Ellison" -> "Instead, Roddenberry re-wrote the script for the episode, but Ellison"
 * Sorting the table by result gives you awarded-nominated-won, which looks odd to me since both awarded and won are colored green, but I'm not sure that it's actually wrong, per se.
 * If you found this review helpful, consider optionally reviewing my World Fantasy Convention Award FLC up above. -- Pres N  21:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've made those fixes. I did try to force a sort in the result column but it broke the award/nominated/won templates. I could change it to a different color or shade of green if you think it'd be appropriate for Awarded. Miyagawa (talk) 23:03, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Support -- Pres N  19:24, 14 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Comments by Colonel Wilhelm Klink

This list is indeed very well written, but I do have two concerns: "Following Roddenberry's death in 1991, he was posthumously awarded the Robert A. Heinlein Memorial Award by the National Space Society and the The George Pal Memorial Award at the Saturn Awards as well as the Exceptional Public Service Medal by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA)."
 * The final sentence of the lead paragraph is a bit of a run-on:

In my opinion, it should be split into two sentences:

"Following Roddenberry's death in 1991, he was posthumously awarded the Robert A. Heinlein Memorial Award by the National Space Society and the George Pal Memorial Award at the Saturn Awards. He was also awarded with the Exceptional Public Service Medal by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA)."

You may wish to use different wording, but you get the idea.


 * A symbol, (such as "†") denoting that an award was given posthumously could be added to the awards chart at the bottom. In general, such a cross is used to denote that a person is deceased, but another symbol may be more appropriate.

Other than this, everything seems to be in order; I see no reason why this list shouldn't gain featured status. Good work, and best of luck. Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 22:22, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking a look - I've split that sentence into two and added the symbol along with a key. Miyagawa (talk) 22:58, 12 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry it's taken me so long to respond: support. Colonel Wilhelm Klink (Complaints|Mistakes) 22:22, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Just a brief glance at this nomination, and it appears as though there wasn't a proper source review yet, so I decided to take that upon myself. I checked all the online sources (simply because I don't have access to the books), and they all checked out fine, although in ref 33, it mentions that he won the The George Pal Memorial Award, but it never specifically stated what year it was awarded. I doubt that'll become a problem, so I'm going to give a Support for the source review. Cheers. Famous Hobo (talk) 21:42, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

– SchroCat (talk) 08:23, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
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