Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Ingrid Bergman/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was archived by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:30, 20 June 2016 (UTC).

List of awards and nominations received by Ingrid Bergman

 * Nominator(s): Willowandglass (talk) 20:42, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because it is an exhaustive list of all the awards and nominations from reputable bodies that Ingrid Bergman received during her acting career. It includes all major awards as well as lesser known ones and personal achievements, and I have been unable to find any other nominations or awards she ever received. Everything is referenced where necessary or possible. It has an extensive lead section explaining the progression and breath of the awards she received, as well as accompanying images and a set of easy-to-read tables that are in the same style as many other similar articles. It also meets all the criteria and is of a similar quality to other similar lists which have received featured status. Willowandglass (talk) 20:42, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment
 * The "Personal achievements" section is hilariously ridiculous. "Nominated work: Petter Lindström / Award: Wife"? Seriously??  Get rid ASAP -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:15, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I got a bit carried away. I have now removed it. Regards Willowandglass (talk) 12:45, 6 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Comments

Yashthepunisher (talk) 11:50, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The list is overcrowded with Images, get rid of the three below the infobox.
 * IMDB is not considered a reliable source.
 * Delink United States, United Kingdom, Italy and France from the lead and the table as well.
 * "was 1943's", "for 1945's", "and 1974's"? I'm sure there is a better way to describe the films alongside there year of release.
 * The opening sentence is quite long, try splitting it in two.


 * *The inclusion of images is due to the stipulation in the criteria that 'it has images and other media'. There are only three additional images included, which are in a space that would have otherwise left an unattractive blank gap. There are also far fewer images than on List of awards and nominations received by Laurence Olivier, which has featured status.
 * The list you are pointing out has Images near the table, it doesn't look bloated. I can't say the same about this list. You need to adjust the Images like Oliver's list.

Regards Willowandglass (talk) 12:44, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why the countries should be delinked, there doesn't seem to be any logical reason to do so? Also, there are no instances of country names being listed in tables anywhere in the article, so I'm not quite sure what you're talking about regarding that.
 * Per WP:OVERLINK: "The names of major geographic features and locations, languages, nationalities and religions" are not usually linked.
 * There's no reason why the dates shouldn't be included differently, but equally there surely isn't any reason why they shouldn't be included as they are. It's all good English and is ultimately a question of idiolect more than anything else and I included them like that simply because it reads better.
 * I was rather suggesting you to mention the director's name or directly mention the name of the film. IMO, the current version doesn't really looks like an example of "good english". You can write something like "..she received major awards recognition was Sam Wood's 1943 war film For Whom the Bell Tolls." Instead of what's written. Anyway they are just my suggestions. Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the constructive criticism regarding IMDb and the first sentence, I will alter accordingly.

This list requires a lot of work to become a featured list. Cowlibob (talk) 09:06, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose
 * Five paragraphs is way too long for only 47 awards/nominations.
 * The whole lead is written in a fashion that a fan would write about their favourite actress. Please use as an example List of awards and nominations received by Laurence Olivier on how to structure the lead.
 * The multiple sections for awards are not needed and indeed it would be more beneficial for navigation to include 47 awards/nominations in one table or to split them into two tables for film / television awards. Again can follow the format of Olivier's list. Tables should also include rowscopes, colscopes like the tables in Olivier's list for accessibility.
 * Many awards are sourced to IMDb which is not a reliable source so those awards are essentially unreferenced.
 * Nearly all the references are formatted incorrectly. There should be no all CAPS in references. The format for non newspaper/magazine sources should be: The format for newspaper/magazine sources should be :

As said above in my oppose, there's plenty to do. Nearly every reference is formatted incorrectly. I've given examples above on how to format. Cowlibob (talk) 11:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Source review
 * There is all caps used in references, publishers are written incorrectly such as Oscars instead of Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
 * Ref 10 is a ebook but has google books has the publisher instead of being format as book reference.
 * Ref 18 is a newspaper but is formatted as cite web.
 * The Laurel Awards are cited to IMDb so are essentially unreferenced.
 * Some dubious sources are also used such as Infoplease, FamousFix, FilmSchoolWTF.
 * Critics organisations are abbreviated.

Oppose – The lead needs quite a bit of work.
 * Plenty of WP:OLINK in the lead.
 * " She subsequently received a number of awards, primarily during the 1940s and '50s, though she did receive some recognition during the '30s, '60s, '70s and '80s." - I don't even see a single nomination in the 1930s.
 * Breathless sentences:
 * "The first role for which she received major awards recognition was 1943's For Whom the Bell Tolls, an American war film which was released in the same year as Casablanca and for which she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Actress, but failed to win, losing to Jennifer Jones for The Song of Bernadette."
 * "Outside of the United States, she also received recognition in the United Kingdom for her performance as Gladys Aylward in the British war film The Inn of the Sixth Happiness, for which she was nominated for the BAFTA for Best Foreign Actress, though she went on to lose to Simone Signoret for Room at the Top."
 * "By the 1970s Bergman had already received two Academy Awards from five nominations, but went on to be nominated twice more, winning for a third time, this time in the category of Best Supporting Actress, for 1974's Murder on the Orient Express, based on the Agatha Christie novel of the same name, for which she also received her first and only BAFTA."
 * Why other winners are given undue importance in her article?
 * There should be a description for each award ceremony in the body of the article.
 * As Cowlibob says, there are a few unreliable sources which need replacement. Formatting needs some work.

&mdash; Vensatry (talk) 18:34, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 21:07, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.