Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Vidya Balan/archive1


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The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 12:03, 3 January 2013.

List of awards and nominations received by Vidya Balan

 * Nominator(s): A Great User ✉  ✉  09:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

I am nominating the article for FLC because i think it meets Featured list criteria A Great User ✉  ✉  09:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Jumping in - I have joined this FLC as a co-nominator to help the main nom in removing the concerns about the list. I shall be re-checking all the concerns by the reviewer. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 13:56, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Quick oppose
 * We don't consider IMDB to be a reliable source. ✅
 * Don't mix date formats in the refs, so, all access dates should be in the same format, all publication dates should be in the same format. ✅
 * Not done, see ref 31 for instance. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:22, 31 December 2012 (UTC)✅
 * Now done. A Great User ✉  ✉


 * Don't end the lead with the bold "this is a list of...".✅
 * Clarification - Only the bold portion to be removed, or the entire sentence? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * See WP:HEAD for avoiding links in section headings, especially when you link only some of the heading. ✅
 * Not done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC) ✅


 * Grammar:
 * " 2012, Where she " don't capitalise the W of where. ✅
 * " for Bhool Bhulaiyaa, Finally in " full stop, not a comma. ✅
 * " agencies - since " check WP:DASH for correct use of en-dash instead of spaced hyphen.✅


 * Avoid bold links in the lead (see WP:CONTEXTLINK). ✅, but confirm
 * Images could use alt text. ✅ (I Fixed)


 * Check thoroughly throughout for such clumsy errors.


 * Infobox box, how can 1 win come from - nominations?
 * Not done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * What I mean is, for the "National Film Awards", you have one win from "–" nominations... what does that mean? The Rambling Man (talk) 13:01, 31 December 2012 (UTC)✅ (Fixed)
 * I believe there are no formal nominations declared for the award. The award ceremony simply announces the winners, and no nominees are announced. Not completely sure though. GreatUser, mind confirming this? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * "1 award out of 2 nominations" etc check WP:MOSNUM for writing numbers below ten in prose as text.
 * Not done, check lead (e.g. 1st...) The Rambling Man (talk) 12:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)✅ (Fixed by TheOriginalSoni)
 * Check WP:NUMERAL].  The Rambling Man (talk) 13:01, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * How about now? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 14:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Why are some dates in the references in italics?
 * all dates are listed in italic font when you use  A Great User  ✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  12:12, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That is incorrect, e.g. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC)✅ (Corrected)
 * For some reason thats happening automatically. If you figure it out, do tell. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 21:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps because you have code like ?  The Rambling Man (talk) 11:17, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * i have edited like this  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  06:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Consistency with publications, e.g. you have "Times of India" quickly followed by "The Times of India". Consistency is required throughout. ✅


 * Avoid SHOUTING in refs.✅


 * Ref 44 appears to be incorrectly formatted.
 * Not done, now ref 43. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:21, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ All corrected <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉


 * Check for violations of WP:DASH in reference titles.✅


 * Ref 19, e.g., these refs need publishers, accessdates if appropriate, author names, publication dates etc if appropriate... not just a linked title.

That's a quick five-minute run through. A long way to go. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:21, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I suggest you take my comments more seriously and actually address them rather than just ignoring most of them and capping them.... The Rambling Man (talk) 12:25, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Also, the lead is full of issues, you need to get it copyedited by a native English speaker:
 * Don't put spaces between punctuation and references.✅
 * "nominations, She Debuted" - full stop required, and no capital in Debut. Perhaps, "nominations.  She made her debut..." ✅


 * You link Hindi, Bengali and Malayalam to the various cinema industries but your use of the links is in the context of the languages.✅
 * "she was honored Filmfare Award for Best " -> "she received the Filmfare Award..."✅
 * "of the year, [2] also nominated" not a good "run-on" sentence.✅
 * "in the film, In 53rd Filmfare Awards" should be a full stop, and should have the word "the" before 53rd.✅
 * "her 1st Filmfare" -> "her first Filmfare..."✅
 * "Finally in 2010" but then you go on to talk about 2011 awards..
 * ✅ <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  15:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * "went to give her " no idea what this means.✅
 * "Category, While For her performance" - if you want that to be a comma, then "While For" should be uncapitalised...✅
 * "and even she was" no idea what you're trying to say here, do you mean she was also nominated for that award?
 * ✅ <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  15:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

This is the lead alone. I haven't even dared read the rest of the article apart from the look at the refs..... The Rambling Man (talk) 13:01, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong Oppose the prose in the article is very poor. There are missing image alt texts, but when there is the alt text, it goes entirely against WP:ALT. For all of the individual sections, you have copied the majority of the text from the main article without attribution. See WP:PLAG. I could go on about missing full stops and punctuation, but I see no need to. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 16:53, 31 December 2012 (UTC) ✅ (Fixed by Greatuser)
 * ❌ Thine Antique Pen (talk) 11:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The list satisfy with WP:ALT and i have removed all edits from other internal links and I have also corrected the grammaratical mistakes. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  13:41, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ❌ Thine Antique Pen (talk) 14:00, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * What issue is now on the page which you have still opposed i fixed all issues, WP:ALT edited, you said see WP:PLAG it now even does not have connection with Award page you said missing full stop and punctuation i also fixed what now do you find on the page please indicate it here <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  15:36, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose Before I offer a full review, I can clearly say that this list is not yet FLC ready. The peer review has not yet received enough comments and the nominator hasn't enclosed it. "A list should not be listed at featured list candidates and peer review at the same time", and "this process is not a substitute for peer review". &mdash; Vensatry <sub style="color:indigo;">(Ping me)  07:47, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

I just realised that there was also an unclosed PR by the nom, which needed to be handled first. I therefore withdraw this nomination in favour of having a PR first before going across to FLC. If any of the reviewers here can do it, it would be good. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 08:19, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah you are right but i forgot to close the pr discussion but now pr has been closed., Thank You <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  08:34, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The PR hasn't got enough comments from reviewers. So far just one reviewer had visited and pointed out a couple of minor issues. &mdash; Vensatry <sub style="color:indigo;">(Ping me)  12:33, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I was not receiving any response from user(s) except a user. and I needed suggestion but now in FLC i made too many correction to let it meet FL criteria, so i closed the discussion <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  13:50, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like the PR has been closed. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 10:09, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have addressed almost all of the specific problems raised by The Rambling Man. A copyedit shall follow soon. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 21:53, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * All problems have been almost addresed but i need other user's support <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  14:02, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Strong oppose this list is nowhere near featured standard. Going through the prose there are basic issues such as "She debuted in 2005 film..." That's not grammatically correct. The majority of that second paragraph is the same. The tables don't meet MOS:DTT, references should be placed after punctuation not straight after a word. Even the alt text doesn't make sense: "An Indian actress wearing a black Saaree with trophy holding in her hand." This needs a thorough copyedit by a native English speaker, as the prose is simply not good enough now. I suggest withdrawing this list as there is no way this list can be promoted within the timescale of this nom. NapHit (talk) 14:23, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * NapHit Thank You for your great suggestion helpful comment, I have corrected almost all mistakes I think now it meets criteria. again i am checking mistakes<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  16:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Please, please ask someone to copyedit this for you. In one second I spotted "Actress.[4][5] (2011) went to give her fifth " in the lead prose... what?! I'm also seeing WP:DASH violations in some reference titles, some badly and/or inconsistently formatted dates in the references.... honestly, withdraw the list, get it looked at properly, and bring it back in a month or so... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:23, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Right, I won't be commenting any more. This recent edit has introduced no fewer than five new errors.  The Rambling Man (talk) 17:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The list is now a perfect list grammatical and other basic mistakes has been fixed and now i am damb absolutely sure it meets the criteria <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000"><span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">A Great User <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">✉  04:27, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Strong oppose Greatuser may be "damb" sure about the list; however, I can't stress enough on the large number of grammatical errors in the lead alone. The first paragraph has been completely lifted from Vidya Balan's article. Moreover, several of the sources are unreliable (Pinkvilla, OneIndia, Indicine, Glamsham...to name a few); also, the references haven't been formatted properly. In short, the list has a long, long, long way to go before it meets the featured criteria. -- smaro jit  <sup style="color:green;">(buzz me)  04:52, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


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