Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of bowlers who have taken a wicket with their first ball in international cricket/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 13:54, 10 February 2010.

List of bowlers who have taken a wicket with their first ball in international cricket

 * Nominator(s): ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 14:10, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I didn't originally intend to bring this to FLC. However, now that I've finally created it, I think it's worth a shot. All comments and suggestions would be much appreciated, as always. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 14:10, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

An interesting idea. However, a couple of obvious things jump out at me. Perhaps more later. BencherliteTalk 18:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comments from Bencherlite
 * Perhaps you can clarify – if someone has bowled in a test before taking a wicket with their first ODI delivery, do they make the list? Or is it only for their first delivery in any form of international cricket?
 * T20s? Has anyone taken a wicket with their first delivery in T20s?
 * Answering my own question: yes. Although Cricinfo doesn't have a list, surprisingly (unless I missed it), at least one bowler has taken a wicket with his first T20 delivery: Joe Denly (SA v England 15 Nov 2009). This stats page shows it was his first over in T20s, this news report says he took a wicket with his first ball. Or, to go back to the previous question, would you only count someone if it was their international debut, not just a T20 debut?
 * First sentence: "A limited number of bowlers have had the opportunity of capturing a wicket with the very first ball they bowled in an international cricket match." Wrong – every bowler has the opportunity of capturing a wicket with his very first ball!  What you are trying to say, I think, is that few have done this.
 * Later on you say "joined the record holders", but I don't think it's a record, really.
 * "this coveted accomplishment" – your words, or somebody else? Sounds a bit POV without a citation;
 * Please sort the names (bowlers, victims) by surname, not first name. sortname is what you want.
 * At the moment, the lists aren't well referenced. Clicking on a reference for a name at random in the ODI list, Clive Lloyd, I get the match scorecard, but nothing about him taking a wicket with his first delivery.  So I clicked on a couple more: Shane Thompson and Wavell Hinds both have scorecard references but no reference for the accomplishment.  I think you need to reassess how you're using your ref 3 and your ref 11, which give the lists of people who've achieved this in Tests and ODIs respectively and are the key references for the list.
 * Refs 6 and 14 have typos.

Believe it or not, I completely forgot about T20I. There's obviously a lot more work to be done here, and I'd like to withdraw the nom for now. Very sorry for the trouble. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


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