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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 17:04, 8 November 2010.

List of breastwork monitors of the Royal Navy

 * Nominator(s): Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

These virtually unknown ships were the direct ancestors of the pre-dreadnought battleship and the dreadnought. I think that it's about time that they got a little love. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment—no dab links, no dead external links. Ucucha 03:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Support per usual disclaimer. I would appreciate a quick check of my copyediting. - Dank (push to talk) 13:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC) Ruslik_ Zero 19:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comments:
 * I think the lead should have an explanation of what monitor is.
 * Breastwork monitor is linked already.
 * That is not enough. Ruslik_ Zero 18:26, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Monitor is already linked.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:49, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I mean you should write a single sentence explanation. Ruslik_ Zero 19:40, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Where? Ruslik_ Zero 16:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * 2nd and 3rd sentences of the first paragraph.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * These sentences have not changed since 9 October, when I posted my comments. Ruslik_ Zero 16:36, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * So you want explanations of breastwork monitor and monitor both?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the lead should have an explanation of what "monitor" is. I think this is sufficiently clear. Ruslik_ Zero 18:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree, the improvements listed of a breastwork monitor over a regular monitor provide enough context for a reader who can click on the link provided if he wants more info. The focus here is not the monitor type.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The units conversions are not consistent. Gun calibers are sometimes converted to mm from inches, but sometimes not. The same with armour.
 * Only the first use is converted.
 * It is not always the first use. 12-inch shell is mentioned before the first table. In addition 12 kn is converted 3 times. Ruslik_ Zero 18:26, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Good catch, fixed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:49, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The section about Cyclops-class ships is too short. It should contain something more specific than were slightly modified versions of Cerberus.
 * I'm not sure what else can be added. The stats are very comparable and they didn't lead exciting lives.
 * You can write what those slight modifications were. Ruslik_ Zero 18:26, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Done.
 * Can years be added to images?
 * Done where it is known.
 * Pre-dreadnought_battleship article says that HMS Devastation was the first sea going breastwork monitor. I am not an expert in ship classification, but should not it be in this list?
 * Not in my opinion because Devastation was far larger than these ships and not intended for the same type of roles.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support All criteria met. I checked the photos and all is well in that department. I cannot vouch for the condition of the Commonwealth English as I don't use it myself. Brad (talk) 03:17, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - see nothing wrong after a full read-through; definitely meets the criteria. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:19, 6 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Another fine list. Had never heard of this particular type of ship before, so it was a nice read. Courcelles 05:27, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


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