Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of career achievements by Kobe Bryant/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 22:19, 4 April 2009.

List of career achievements by Kobe Bryant

 * Nominator(s): — Chris!  c t 

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it fulfills the criteria.— Chris!  c t 21:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll help without nomination. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 00:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


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 * Lead
 * He and then-teammate Shaquille O'Neal led the Lakers to three consecutive NBA championships from 2000 to 2002. -- We'll see what results from a discussion on the capitalization of "Champion(ship)"
 * After O'Neal's departure following the 2003–04 season, Bryant became the cornerstone of the Lakers franchise.  -- Clarify what departure is meant here. From the NBA or his former team
 * Reword— Chris!  c t 00:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * As of March 2009, he had five 60-point games, 24 50-point games, and 96 40-point games. -- add has before had
 * Done. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Lists
 * What does the bold in the tables mean?
 * It should mean career high, but I don't know how Chris will indicate it. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Added a note about that— Chris!  c t 00:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Is the "Career" row his total of all seasons?
 * It's the average of all seasons except for the "Game played" and "Game started". --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Career highs table: I don't like the use of the symbol Game & date here, I think spelling out the word would be better
 * Fixed— Chris!  c t 00:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also in this table, why isn't their a game and date for the freethrows?
 * For your second comment, it is because there were multiple times where Bryant achieved his career high. --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh okay.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   00:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * References
 * I hate to be a dick about this but ESPN.Com is not the publisher, its the work. ESPN Internet Ventures. is the publisher
 * For the Youtube ref, can you place the work being from the National Basketball League?
 * National Basketball League... --  SRE.K.A.L. &#124; L.A.K.ERS ]] call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Dammit, it was a real league.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   00:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Team USA isn't the publisher, USA Basketball, Inc. is.
 * KB24 is the name of the site, while Kobe Bryant. is the publisher
 * All fixed— Chris!  c t 00:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   22:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support -- Previous issues resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards. Good work.--Best,  ₮ RU  C Ө   00:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments - I like the idea behind the improvements to this list. The career achievements lists are generally in rough shape and could use a good model. Here are my thoughts:
 * Bryant's official website is sourcing a few of the records. Can't a better source be found than this? If not, maybe those records aren't notable enough to be included here.-Done
 * The Youtube link is the official NBA one, correct?-Yes
 * "Drafted 13th overall by the Charlotte Hornets in the 1996 NBA Draft". Draft is repetitive here. How about "Selected 13th overall by the Charlotte Hornets in the 1996 NBA Draft"? -Done
 * The NBA.com link in the infobox doesn't work.-Fixed
 * "the second highest number of points scored in a single game in NBA history, second only to Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point performance." Change "second only to" to "behind only". That change will prevent "second" from being a redundancy. Also consider a hyphen for "second highest".-Done
 * "winning three All-Star MVP Awards in 2002, 2007, and 2009." Reads like he won three awards each year. I recommend dropping "three". Also, is it worth mentioning in the lead that the 2009 award was shared with Shaq?-Done
 * NBA awards and accomplishments: There are two citations that need to be moved outside parentheses; both are in the regular-season leader area.-Done
 * NBA records: "Kobe Bryant shares two NBA records". Then why are more than two items listed?-Fixed
 * Here and in the next section, I don't think Kobe's first name needs to be repeated.-Done
 * "Became one of the only three players to reach the milestone under the age of 30." This change would get rid of a little wordiness.-Done
 * Los Angeles Lakers franchise records: Several instances of references being out of numerical order, such as [41][37]. Also, the references for the four straight 50-point games don't need to be repeated in the photo, since the statistic is cited in the text.-Done
 * Others: "The Aces defeated Erie Cathedral Prep 48–43 to take home the gold." Could a more encyclopedic phrase than "take home the gold" be used, please?-Done  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 01:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Support - Nice to see a new kind of list at FLC. For an original list, it's quite good and I think it meets the standards.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 03:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment In the "career statistics" table, would it be possible to note the years in which he led the league in a certain statistic? For example, if he led the league in free throw% in 06/07, could that cell be bolded or something? -- Scorpion 0422  17:08, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it is possible. I will add a symbol and color.— Chris!  c t 03:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can only do it for point per game since it is the only one that appears in the career statistics table.— Chris!  c t 03:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
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