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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Giants2008 10:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC).

List of chief ministers from Bharatiya Janata Party

 * Nominator(s): ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 10:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because it meets all the criteria. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Oppose As somebody who's spent a lot of time on chief-minister articles, I've come across a number of difficulties which has prevented me from nominating any (except the relatively simple List of current Indian chief ministers) at FLC. I see a number of those problems here:
 * the primary one is sourcing. WorldStatesmen.org seems to be a crowdsourced project, and I thus doubt it can be considered as a reliable source. You'll have go to individual state-govts' websites and hunt for CM-related info. In several cases these don't even exist.
 * What makes photius.com an RS?
 * The Term (tenure length) column seems to be inspired by this. However that article was simpler in the sense that whoever was longest-serving was also the earliest occupant. In this BJP article, there's no way to use the sort function to rank by tenure lengths. There's also no mention of total length of tenures.
 * You don't need to use ref [4] in the lead. It is backed up by the table.
 * That map is extremely strange. It goes from lighter to darker shade of the same colour--giving the impression that a darker state has had more CMs than a lighter one. For eg.
 * IMO don't make any special indication for "regional party supported by the BJP". This article is about BJP's CMs, not BJP govts. Plus it's never really clear who is supporting who in Indian politics, so you'd need a source to back these claims.
 * On the whole: reconsider the purpose of the map. As a national party, obviously it will have a presence in nearly the whole country. Maybe just listing the four incumbent states is enough? Or maybe colour-code the states by no of CMs?
 * See below


 * "(First time)" and so on don't really serve any purpose. The tenures are clear without them. —indopug (talk) 21:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I have opened a thread here about the source. I will fix all other issues once it gets clear whether the source is reliable or not. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 13:28, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Support This article is complete in itself with reliable sources. This article should be in Featured list.-- Prateek Malviya Talk 03:33, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

 Resolved comments of §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} Comment by Dharmadhyaksha
 * How is this format?

In here the total terms and total duration in days are separated and both are sortable. Last column acts like description of the previous two without sorting. Feel free to rename the headers. This might be confusing.
 * Instead of using §, use a symbol which is easily searchable by Ctrl+F or at least § which is not in template. Also, we normally use symbols along with colours so for readers with visual impediment the symbol serves the purpose for distinction. But there's no reason to strain visually able readers to search for such tiny symbol. Use a shade of orange to highlight such entries.
 * About map i agree with Indopug. Why not make two maps; one for incumbent CMs and one with number of CM? If you wish, a map with largest tenure can also be made. (Its so easy to preach!) §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 09:04, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 11:31, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I haven't indicated the no. of CMs in the map because it will be misleading. The BJP has only one CM in Chhattisgarh since 2003, but had 3 CMs in Karnataka in just one term. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 11:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm! Thats a good point. Didn’t realize that before. I am happy with this current map. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 16:09, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * But something is going wrong here. We are writing that Raman Singh has served 1 term. When actually they were 2 term, both consecutive. That point of he getting elected twice and becoming CM consecutively is missed out. Same with Modi, Chouhan and probably others. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 16:09, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * There is no source to get the number of terms. So I have replaced the title heading with Tenure(s), as consecutive terms are counted as one tenure. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 12:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * With respect to politics i suppose terms are more important. Party winning and nominating same person for the post is crucial which we are missing out here. If there are sources for dates of tenure, i don’t see what source is unavailable? §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 17:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The source counts consecutive terms as one tenure, and no information is provided about the terms or the elections. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 06:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Support: §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 03:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Support &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  07:29, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Question: Have sourcing concerns been addressed? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:45, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * See my response to Vensatry's comment. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 14:36, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


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