Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of concert tours by Michael Jackson and The Jackson 5/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 17:31, 29 October 2009.

List of concert tours by Michael Jackson and The Jackson 5

 * Nominator(s):  Pyrrhus  16 ' 23:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)''

I am nominating this for featured list because... I have revamped it to a comprehensive list that I believe meets the FL criteria. The list is structured in a similar fashion to List of Kylie Minogue concert tours.  Pyrrhus  16 ''' 23:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Alt text checks out. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:31, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:01, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Oppose in its current form. There are a number of copyediting and visual issues that need to be dealt with:
 * The table itself needs some work to make it readable, as does the Kylie Minogue list you modeled it from. Because both the informational cells and the summary cell are the same color, it is visually confusing to the reader. Even a subtle difference in color would help, as in The Simpsons (season 1), which uses Template:Episode list.
 * Added a bit shading to the headings.
 * There has to be more information about some of these tours than the one sentence a couple of them have.
 * The early tours aren't as well documented as the later ones. Little information exists on them.
 * The lead image claims that the bad world tour was, "one of the most successful tours of all time." Define success specifically. Highest grossing? Biggest audiences? Most moonwalks?
 * Changed to "highest grossing".
 * lead "breaking out into Europe in 1972 and the rest of world the subsequent year" could use some rewording - breaking out into is unwieldy.
 * Altered, not sure if it's a great improvement though.
 * lead "Their 1981 36-city circulation of the US—the Triumph Tour—succeeded." in what way?
 * "Succeeded" in that it came next.
 * lead "release of the band's Victory and Michael Jackson's Thriller" need to make clear to the lay reader that these are albums somehow. They could also be wikilinked.
 * Made it clear that they are albums.
 * Dates for the 1971 and 1972 tours make it seem like they visited fifty venues in one month.
 * Fixed the end date for the 1971 tour. Don't know what needs done for the 1972 one; the description states that it was only a 12-day tour of Europe and there are no specific start/end dates for it.
 * in 1970 "Boston, Cincinnati, and New York" vs. "New Zealand, the Philippines and the West Indies" - it doesn't matter whether you use the serial comma or not, just pick one version and be consistent with it.
 * Done.
 * Geraldk (talk) 12:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestions.  Pyrrhus  16 ''' 14:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Good work on the quick cleanup. I do think you need to find a better way to say what you are trying to say about the 1981 tour, the meaning of 'succeeded' you use is a fairly rare usage and makes the meaning of that sentence unclear. Geraldk (talk) 18:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've changed it to "came next".  Pyrrhus  16 ''' 12:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Support - my concerns have been addressed. Geraldk (talk) 12:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

The sources look good and image licensing and alt text seems fine. I think there is still room for some visual tweaks. For example, perhaps you could set the "Year" columns to a reasonably small fixed size and center their text. I also don't think the number of references warrants the reduced font size. However, this is not enough to keep me from supporting this nomination. Good work.  Good raise  13:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Reduced the column and attempted to center the text. It doesn't appear to be working with the narrower column size, for me at least. Were you asking for this to be done when asking for reduced reference font size?  Pyrrhus  16 ''' 14:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I wasn't asking for reduced font size. I was asking for normal font size. The reduced font size currently used in the article is caused by the templates reflist (a replacement for ), refbegin, and refend.  Good raise  14:39, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. Done.  Pyrrhus  16 ''' 14:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Support Mm40 (talk) 23:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


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