Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of counties in New Jersey/archive2


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 15:36, 26 September 2009.

List of counties in New Jersey

 * Nominator(s): Mm40 (talk), Alansohn (talk), Geraldk

I am nominating this for featured list because after working on it today, I believe that another one of those boring county lists stands up. Also, I'm about to notify the other two editors with significant contributions to the page, Geraldk and Alansohn. Mm40 (talk) 02:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I would like to second the nomination. I have just updated the 2008 census population estimates, to go along with details on founding, area, and sourced details of the derivation of each county's name. As it currently stands, this article compares favorably to other county lists that have reached featured list status, and I will be happy to collaborate on any changes needed to address any issues with the article needed to reach featured status. Alansohn (talk) 03:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. I took a very quick look at the article (I still recall its previous FL candidacy) and I have one comment (not a thorough review yet). The paragraph about FIPS codes gives undue attention to a very peripheral detail. I suggest trimming it back along the lines of the shorter paragraph on FIPS in List of counties in Tennessee. --Orlady (talk) 04:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Mm40 (talk) 11:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: It would help the article greatly if a summary of the functions, structure, history, and extent of power of county government in New Jersey is included in the introduction. If an article discussing New Jersey county government exists, it should be linked. If there is no such article, a more detailed discussion should probably be included. --Polaron | Talk 14:01, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. See if that's what you were looking for. Mm40 (talk) 15:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Update Material was added to the article about the historic role of representation by county on the New Jersey Senate, a practice that was eliminated based on one man, one vote considerations in the 1960s. Alansohn (talk) 01:54, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. Alt text done; thanks. The county maps lack alt text. For example, for Image:Map of New Jersey highlighting Atlantic County.svg I suggest using alt text something like "Located on the Atlantic Coast, just north of the state's southern tip", and similarly for the other county maps. You can specify the alt text with the " " parameter that I just added to the Countyrow template. For the lead map, the current text doesn't help the visually impaired reader much (please see WP:ALT); I suggest something like "Larger counties are in the center and northwest, with smaller counties in the northeast; see the list for details." Eubulides (talk) 02:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Working on it. I was going to add it to the individual counties, but at the time, didn't have the alt text parameter. Mm40 (talk) 17:50, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. For some reason, they aren't showing up in the ALT text reader in the toolbox. Mm40 (talk) 19:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed, the template uses a capital "A" instead of lowercase (which is what the parameter usually is). Dabomb87 (talk) 19:45, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the alt text. I tweaked it by the not-that-useful "in red" from the alt text, as per WP:ALT. Eubulides (talk) 06:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Support Comments  from The list looks good; I have just two questions:
 * What makes http://www.familyhistory101.com/maps/nj_cf.html a reliable source?
 * I guess it was used to introduce more sources to the article. I've replaced it with two references used earlier in the article. Mm40 (talk) 17:50, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't there be an external ref link for the US Census citation (ref 1)? Dabomb87 (talk) 17:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, added. I was too lazy to find the correct link when I first used the reference ;) Mm40 (talk) 17:50, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Why are the counties' areas different from the source? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Not quite sure. Fixed, in any regard. Mm40 (talk) 01:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Support Looks good. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 11:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Support - I think the article is well put together. -- ZeWrestler  Talk 01:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Comments
 * The population column needs a reference and there's a number of discrepancies between the created column and ref 11. Also Gloucester has a different area on that ref. --Jpeeling (talk | contribs) 12:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm seeing wrong, the population column does have a reference. Mm40 (talk) 00:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I know now I need to check over a pre-made table before nominating at FLC. Fixed. Mm40 (talk) 00:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Also fixed. Mm40 (talk) 00:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, the population column needs a reference which actually backs up the data. --Jpeeling (talk | contribs) 09:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Another editor updated the population, but not the reference. Is the one I replaced with, current ref 13, OK? Mm40 (talk) 11:30, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
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