Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of deaths at the Berlin Wall/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 21:12, 21 October 2011.

List of deaths at the Berlin Wall

 * Nominator(s): violet/riga [talk] 22:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

A recently created article but I believe it now covers the topic in sufficient depth to meet FL criteria. I can't see any significant gaps in the content.

Regarding the criteria:
 * 1) Prose: Written by two people and copy-edited by others, I believe it to be of a high enough standard.
 * 2) Lead: I think that the lead covers the topic well without going into too much detail.
 * 3) Comprehensiveness: The list is fixed at 136 entries and this covers them all.
 * 4) Structure: The table is sortable on six of the seven columns.
 * 5) Style:
 * 6) * It looks quite nice and the charts give a good representation of the information. Only list items with articles are linked.
 * 7) * Lots of appropriate images throughout the text, all of which should have decent captions. The images used within the list are the only free ones that I know to be available; an agreement with the ZZF to use their images would be nice but difficult to obtain.
 * 8) Stability: No edit wars; the content is not likely to change significantly.

violet/riga [talk] 22:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Support Pumpkin Sky   talk  01:03, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

The Rambling Man (talk) 15:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) While not mandatory, alt text would be good for the images.
 * 2) Consider the use of the lang template for your German phrases which you translate to English.
 * 3) Why are the various victim references on the line below the victim names?
 * 4) You should use row and col scopes for WP:ACCESS, see MOS:DTT.


 * The captions are descriptive but some ALTs could be added.
 * I'll have a look around to find them
 * The table could be very wide and adding a further column for a reference would not work well. Having them on the same line of the name has a similar ugly effect.  Placing the reference in any other column would make it look like only that item of data is being referenced.
 * I don't think a single column for them at the end would be a problem. Nor placing them next the names.  Right now, I think this is the only article I've seen in all of Wikipedia to use this approach!  The Rambling Man (talk) 15:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Having tried both options it really does make the table horribly wide and, consequently, horribly word-wrapped on lower resolutions. violet/riga [talk] 16:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added col scopes - row scopes could be added but I'm considering that at the moment
 * violet/riga [talk] 14:40, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Looks very very good and with an interesting introduction.

Support bamse (talk) 00:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Quick comments –
 * Legal cases: "Numerous guards were the same ones who had been awarded a Medal for Exemplary Border Service or an other award for the killing." "an other" → "another"?
 * Deaths: In the table, it would be nice if the blank cells had a dash of some type in them, for a more attractive appearance.
 * Rudolf Urban: Don't think Pnuemonia needs to be capitalized in this entry's note.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 19:44, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The two typos have easily been sorted and the blanks in the table have been filled in except for the images column, where I feel that it wouldn't look particularly good. violet/riga [talk] 23:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Support gladly. Good work! Parutakupiu (talk) 21:28, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
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