Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of former Football League clubs


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 00:09, 28 August 2008.

List of former Football League clubs
I have shaped this list in the mould of List of former Scottish Football League clubs, which has successfully passed the FLC process. The list has undergone a peer review, which brought to attention issues that have since been amended. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 09:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Then Support per nom. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 17:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the Accrington Stanley row should mention that a reformed club under the same name are now playing in the FL. Also the Wimbledon row should mention AFC Wimbledon. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 15:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've expanded on these clubs. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * When you say "depending on the Conference clubs' ability to meet FA requirements", do you mean the club that has been relegated or clubs within the Conference National? What happens if they don't meet the FA requirements? Are they then not relegated, or are they just kicked out?  naerii  16:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ This is referring to the Conference clubs and the club would simply not be relegated. I've tried to clarify this in the article. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, loooks good.  naerii  17:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Support fantastic work well done NapHit (talk) 12:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Some thoughts / comments from me: *Clubs from Wales - I can see a couple of names lower down that are Welsh, but my understanding was that Cardiff and Swansea (and, until last season, Wrexham) were very much the exception to the English-only set up. Is this susceptible of easy clarification? Looking good generally, though, and well done for making it sortable (something I was going to suggest had I got round to posting earlier!) BencherliteTalk 16:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The lead doesn't actually discuss the list in much detail, just the history of the Football League. So, for example, do we need to know here that the league was suspended during WWI?  Why not add in some information about the list e.g. that all current members of the Premier League were once members of the Football League (not immediately obvious from this list), the number of clubs that are out of business, the club that has fallen the furthest in the pyramid etc.
 * ✅ Added some extra information about the list itself in the lead. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Is this a complete list? If so, is there a source for it being a complete list?
 * ✅ Soccerbase has reocrd of all the clubs to have played in the Football League - I've added it as a general reference. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * where does Soccerbase show that this is a complete list? BencherliteTalk 19:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nowhere speficially, but their past league tables show which clubs were in the Football League. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've now added a complete list of clubs to have played in the Football League. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "Fourth Division, now League Two" – just "League Two" (you've already told us that it used to be the Fourth Division)
 * ✅ ''Changed. I included Fourth Division as for the 2003–04 season this is what the division was known as. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "face relegation to the Conference" – do you mean that they are relegated, or that they only might be?
 * I'd say it's only a rarity that teams won't be relegated. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not quite the point I was making; on re-reading, it might be clearer if that sentence was swapped with the previous one, and the point made that that season saw an increase in the number of relegated teams from 1 to 2. Incidentally, is it the 2002/3 season or the 2003/4 season?  I assume the former given the contents of the reference, but it could be clearer; similarly with 1987 (1986/7 or 1987/8?)
 * ✅ I've clarified which seasons these changes were implemented. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean. The league may only contain two Welsh clubs, but at the end of the day there are still Welsh clubs in the Football League. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What I mean is that the FA governs football in England, the FAW governs football in Wales and there's a different league structure in Wales to England; having said that, it probably requires too much explanation to fit neatly into the lead....
 * "depending on the ability of the Conference clubs' pending promotion to meet FA requirements" misuses the possessive apostrophe – how about "although they would not be relegated if the Conference National champions could not be promoted for not meeting FA ground requirements", or something along those lines
 * ✅ Had a go at rewording. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Should the "notes" columns be "refs", as it leads to "References", not "Notes"?
 * ✅ Indeed - I've changed accordingly. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comments updated. BencherliteTalk 19:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * What makes the following reliable sources?
 * http://www.footballsite.co.uk/index.html
 * http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/
 * http://www.soccer.mistral.co.uk/fleg/flhist.htm
 * http://www.fchd.info/
 * Per the MOS, link titles should not be in all capitals in the references.
 * Otherwise sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:19, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.