Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of heads of state of the Soviet Union/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 18:18, 17 February 2011.

List of heads of state of the Soviet Union

 * ''Nominator(s): --TIAYN (talk) 20:00, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I feel this list meets the FL criteria. And please either support or oppose the list; I don't want the list to fail because of lack of reviewer interest.

Doing Sp33dyphil  (Talk) (Contributions)(Feed back needed @ Talk page) 06:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I highly doubt that the table is correct.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Why? --TIAYN (talk) 17:09, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Why is the right table so odd and so much space above, why not just merge into one table, like here, with an extra column "Vice president"-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 18:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Because there were no vice heads of state before 1977, that's why the header is not located at the start. Even if i did include it at the top header box, what would i do with all the none-existing posts? It's much easier this way, or at least I think it's much easier this way. --TIAYN (talk) 18:25, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You need to have something at the top. When I do governor lists and have a state which didn't have a lieutenant governor for a long time, at the top I still say "Lieutenant Governor" with a footnote explaining that the post didn't exist until 19xx. --Golbez (talk) 21:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done --TIAYN (talk) 22:07, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Support Arsenikk (talk)  18:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment My screen view the table a little bit false. (I'll try to explain :P) in the sixth row there is a small line that goes to the "Vice heads of state" column a little bit, but not entire. The right border doesn't comprise the table completely and if I scroll down and up, the pitch between the border end and the column border is variable large. And in the last row in the second table half there is a white space between the column header "Vice President (1990–1991)" and "Vacant 	15 March 1990 – 27 December 1990". Could you fix this problems, please? I don't know if all screens view this like mine. Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 22:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I would, but there is one problem, I don't understand what the problem is! --TIAYN (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I fixed it. But I question the need for a lot of the styling... why not let the browser and standard sheets do their work? :) --Golbez (talk) 21:36, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Comment once again this nomination appears to have stalled. TIAYN, have you notified the various relevant wikiprojects that this nomination needs input, reviews, opinions? If we don't see some movement soon I think we'll need to archive the nomination. Let me know. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm working on it! --TIAYN (talk) 18:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support -- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 18:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comments - Would it be easier to split off the Vice head into its own table? the huge Rowspan just looks terribly unprofessional. Afro  ( Talk ) 18:41, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed --TIAYN (talk) 22:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You use Rowspan with the change of the title of the office I was thinking whether it'd be better to provide a note in the term of office row in the first column this new title is given. Afro  ( Talk ) 12:34, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I must admit, I don't understand your point. --TIAYN (talk) 17:44, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry if my comment isn't clear enough, what I mean is you use the rowspan to designate when the name of the office was changed, I was wondering whether it'd be better to explain these in notes. Afro  ( Talk ) 20:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm still in the black here, do you mean to replace the title headers? If so no, I'm opposed to that idea. Second, I just this method on the recently List of Premiers of the Soviet Union article, which you supported, so I don't understand why you are opposed to the headers. Thirdly, have I miss intepret your comment? --TIAYN (talk) 13:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm just floating around the idea, I'm not opposed as such, just thought I would put out an idea if it might improve the article, but since its been shot down lets move on. WP:LEAD suggests the lead should be no longer than 4 paragraphs. Afro  ( Talk ) 14:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed/Done --TIAYN (talk) 16:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I have no issues with the article. Afro  ( Talk ) 18:10, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

some comments on the footnotes/citations:
 * Manual of Style (capital letters) indicates initial caps of titles. currently, this article's various citations (books and news articles) do not follow this.
 * Done --TIAYN (talk) 08:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:ISBN indicates "Stylistically, please:
 * Use 13-digit ISBNs, if available, as these are now standard as of January 1, 2007 and issued to new books.


 * Done --TIAYN (talk) 08:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Use dashes if they are included, as they divide the number into meaningful parts; the placement of dashes varies between books."


 * Done --TIAYN (talk) 08:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * some news articles are missing bylines.  in the absence of a byline, one can put "staff writer" so the reader knows that the byline was not forgotten when preparing citations.
 * Done --TIAYN (talk) 08:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * what are credentials of "sssr.ru" and "Hrono.ru? (currently footnotes #22 and #31, respectively).  are there wikipedia articles on these websites?--96.232.126.111 (talk) 23:28, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Done --TIAYN (talk) 08:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

comment on accessibility:
 * WP:ALT discusses the need for "alt" text for images for those using screen readers (or users on platforms that do not offer images).--96.232.126.111 (talk) 23:28, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Done --TIAYN (talk) 08:51, 10 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: Regardless of how poorly you regard the statements, it's extremely poor form to remove someone else's civil comments, especially from your own nomination. If they're worthy of removal, certainly someone else will do it. --Golbez (talk) 17:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I replaced them. TIAYN, it's far better to respond to the comments rather than simply delete them.  And actually, they don't seem at all unreasonable. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:35, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support: After fixing a couple of errors and Russian in the article, it looks okay to go to me. Might be a good idea to split the currently rather big lead into subsections dedicated to each of the listed head of state groups, i.e. "Chairman of the CEC" (most of the second para), "Chairman of the Presidium" (last sentence of the second para and all of the third), "President" (last para). --illythr (talk) 16:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support... I don't really see the point in breaking the list into sections, It would over-complicate things. Of course, If you could show me a version of it in a sandbox I may reconsider. --TIAYN (talk) 13:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.