Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of highways in Harris County, Texas/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 19:50, 30 May 2012.

List of highways in Harris County, Texas

 * Nominator(s): Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 08:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC), Feedloadr, Fortguy

I am nominating this for featured list because, after copy-editing and expanding this article, I feel that it is of similar quality to other similar lists that are recognized as featured. - Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 08:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I left some detailed comments on the nominator's talk page. To wit: by-county lists of highway have fallen out of vogue with the larger WP:USRD project for a while now, and there are a lot of items that will need updating here before it meets the FL criteria if other reviewers feel this is a worthy topic to consider on its own.  Imzadi 1979  →   20:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comments:
 * 1. I echo the concerns of by-county lists. See Articles for deletion/List of state highways in Marquette County, Michigan. This information can be condensed and presented in the Harris County, Texas article. Alternatively, the scope can possibly be extended to cover the entire Houston metro area.
 * Unfortunately, it seems both alternatives would violate WP:SIZE. Even if list were to be condensed, it would somewhat overtake the Harris County article, not including adding at least 13 or so KB. I would support including the entire Houston Metro area, but doing this would also most likely also have issues with size. The official Houston metro area takes up 12 counties. In most states, this would be fine. But due to Texas's unique system of Spurs, Loops, and FM's, expanding this article in this fashion would at least triple the size, putting it somewhere around 80-90 KB. - Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 05:29, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 2. The lead should not have citations unless that information is unique there.
 * removed unnecessary refs. - Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 05:29, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 3. In the lead, once you define an abbreviation, keep using the abbreviation. For instance in "(Interstate 10 (I-10), known as the Katy Freeway and East Freeway, and Interstate 45 (I-45), known as the Gulf Freeway and North Freeway)", after defining the abbreviation for I-10, you do not need to spell out I-45 in full but rather simply abbreviate it.
 * Fixed, I believe. - Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 05:48, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 4. The prose has a lot of long sentences.
 * Split/shortened several sentences. - Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 05:29, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 5. There are a lot of redlinks in the lists. Can these be fixed?
 * Removed all unnecessary links. - Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 05:29, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * 6. The article relies on a lot of TxDOT sources. Are there any other sources that can be used to supplement the information?  Dough 48  72  23:38, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * In the process of creating the references row, I am trying to add sources to Google Maps. - Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 05:29, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Comments Oppose until at least these are addressed. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 02:56, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The images of the highway signs are far too small to read, especially the State Highways with three numbers, the purple ones and the Farm and Ranch ones. Are they even necessary, given that you also name each one in words?
 * Is there a map available of the county? Perhaps one that displays Interstates, US and SH routes and major cities and towns? I have no idea what's in Harris County, the size of it, nothing, and most readers won't either. (Actually, it might be worth mentioning the county's area somewhere in the Lede.)
 * Some of the route lengths are given as a whole number, like I-10, I-45, but others are specific to 1, 2 or even 3 decimal places. Can the ones rounded up or down be more specific too?
 * It looks like all the Farm and Ranch to Market roads are farm roads. Is "Ranch" necessary in the section heading?
 * The Lede says that many of the FM roads have been redesignated to Urban Roads. Could you perhaps indicate somehow which ones these are in the table?
 * The opening sentence needs a slight adjustment. "The state highways in Harris County, Texas consists of approximately 1,213 miles" -- "consists" is pluralised, when it should be singular (The state highways consist of), unless you use a word like "system" (The state highways system consists of) but that's used later in the sentence.
 * The termini column where it gives County names.. Does that indicate where the roads actually end, or does it just mean the border of Harris County and the ones named? Is it possible to be more specific by giving town or city names with all the termini? Stuff like "east of downtown Houston" means nothing if people don't know where Houston is, or what downtown means (it's a very American word)
 * "I-610 to US 90 /FM 2100" probably needs a word space after the slash
 * Are IH-10,  IH-45, and IH-610 official abbreviations? I always assumed it was just I-10,  I-45, and I-610
 * Link to loop route, spur route and Park Road (Texas) on first use for those non familiar with the terms
 * Make sure you use nowrap or a nobreakspace for all spaces between "US 90", "SH 288", and everything else so that the numbers don't end up on a different line to the type of road

I would now like to withdraw this Featured List nomination. Due to the fact that I will be taking finals for the next few days, and will not have the time to fix this article, I feel that I cannot complete the necessary revisions that are needed in the time that is available to me. I hope to renominate this article in a week or two, after the revisions have been made. - Awardgive, the editor with the msitaken name. 04:12, 30 May 2012 (UTC)


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