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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC).

List of historic places in Kaikōura District

 * Nominator(s): Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Another one of these Heritage New Zealand lists! Slowly but surely, the histories of the territorial authorities are getting covered by these. Kaikōura District is a rural, isolated region along the mountainous northeastern coast of South Island. Despite only having around 4,000 residents, it boasts ten different historic places — plus two former ones that have sadly been destroyed. I hope everyone enjoys! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Comments

 * MPGuy2824
 * Does this pass WP:NLIST? It might be better to group these lists by NZ region, instead of by territorial authority.

-MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:09, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Most territorial authorities have 50+ historic sites; I'm just starting with the smallest. The largest (not counting Auckland and Dunedin, which feel like unfair comparisons here) would be Far North District, with 371. I feel it would simply be unhelpful to group these by region, as the regions would all be several hundred sites long. Canterbury and Otago would have 800. (And, I feel most important for NLIST, Heritage New Zealand lists these sites by local authority on their website.) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:10, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Comments

 * "Tourism, alongside agriculture and cheesemaking, have become important industries in the area today" - this isn't grammatically correct. I suggest either "Tourism, agriculture and cheesemaking have become important industries in the area today" or, if the point is that tourism is new compared to the other two, then "Tourism has become an important industry in the area today, alongside agriculture and cheesemaking
 * Fixed. -G
 * "the eponymous district center of Kaikōura became a small and isolated fishing village after colonisation." - I am not at all familiar with spellings used in New Zealand, but is this mixture of US-style and UK-style spellings really correct? In contrast to "colonisation", later on we have "standardized" and "organized" (US-style) as well as "favor".
 * Oops, always forget to make sure these have NZ spellings. Fixed. - G
 * "Associated with the Ngāti Kurī hapū of the Ngāi Tahu iwi." - this isn't a complete sentence so it doesn't need a full stop
 * "Was occupeid by the Hailes family" - second word is spelt incorrectly
 * Oops. Fixed! - G
 * That's all I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * And all is fixed! Thank you. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:16, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey man im josh
Source review: Passed
 * Reliable enough for the information being cited
 * Consistent date formatting
 * Consistent and proper reference formatting
 * Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
 * Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for

Feedback:
 * I think you're missing "The Elms Farm Complex" from your former list
 * Could add an additional ref or two from other sources into the lead, possibly in the first paragraph, since the article is largely sourced to one source

That's the only criticisms I have. Good stuff! Ping me when you reply. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:44, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I think I made all the changes you asked! Added a new source to the lede. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 17:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Follow up comments:
 * Down case "Former" to "former" in the Elms Farm Complex line added
 * Fix publisher link in ref 2 (you did not finish piping it apparently)
 * That SHOULD be in once that's fixed. When that's done please do ping me again @Generalissima. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oops! Fixed. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:59, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Dajasj:
 * I'm not sure whether this is something that can be addressed, because I see this often on Wikipedia. But I have a hard time enjoying the table, because there is one small column ("Notes") that is very long every row and all the other columns are mostly whitespace. On both mobile and laptop, I am not even able to see the entire first row on my screen. So I had three ideas:
 * Could the images be moved to a gallery? That leaves more room for the Notes column. Downside is that this might only work for a smaller table, while I read above that there will be longer tables in the future.
 * Do these historic sites meet the notability guidelines? The entire problem would be solved if the information is moved to separate pages.
 * Should the table perhaps be just a list? One would ofc lose the sortability, but there would be less issues with style. So the question is, is the sortability of these columns so important?
 * As I said, I can imagine ignoring all these ideas, but it might be some food for thought. Dajasj (talk) 07:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * This is a perfectly normal and acceptable table format which I see no issues with. I personally find the images in-line and sortability to be helpful. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Image review from Dylan620
Support on image review. Dylan 620 (he/him • talk • edits) 02:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * All images have suitable alt text.
 * All images contribute encyclopedic value to the listicle (and are quite pretty, I might add).
 * All images are appropriately licensed for either public domain or Creative Commons.
 * Sourcing for each image checks out.

Giants2008 ( Talk ) 21:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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