Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of historic places in the Chatham Islands/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC).

List of historic places in the Chatham Islands

 * Nominator(s): Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

My first featured list candidate! This is an extremely niche topic; the Chatham Islands are a tiny New Zealand island chain far to the east of the main islands, most notable for their bloody 19th century history. Most of these structures are so obscure that their New Zealand Heritage List entries are their only online presence, and a lot of them don't even have their full reports available! The obscurity notwithstanding, I hope this is a well-composed list. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey man im josh
I'll do a more thorough review afterwards, but for now, I wanted to point out that your table needs to be accessible, which includes column and scope rows. See PresN's standard comment for some advice. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Fixed up! Thank you very much. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Source review: Passed
 * Reliable enough for the information being cited
 * Consistent date formatting
 * Consistent and proper reference formatting
 * Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
 * Sources match what they are being cited for

Feedback:
 * Ref 1 – Change website from Te Ara - Encyclopedia of New Zealand to Te Ara: The Encyclopedia of New Zealand, to reflect the name of the article
 * Done. -G
 * Refs 3 and 4 – Where do you get the date of 2023 from?
 * For 4: Copyright date of the website, although I realize that doesn't necessarily match the content. 3 was accidental; I removed the dates on these. - G
 * Ref 7 – Remove website, publisher is enough.
 * Makes sense, done. - G
 * Bibliography item 1 – Shows a publish date of 2010-10-30 but the item only says 2010 for the date
 * Fixed. - G
 * Add archive links with IABot
 * Is there any reason you didn't make this table sortable? I understand the notes section wouldn't be useful for sorting.
 * None in particular, I added sorting. - G
 * I noticed Category:Heritage New Zealand Category 1 historic places and Category:Heritage New Zealand Category 2 historic places exist. For Category 2, it says, This category lists buildings, structures and other places which have been declared Category II under the New Zealand Historic Places Act 1993 - "...places of ‘historical or cultural heritage significance or value" – It might make sense to include a very brief mention that these classifications are a result of the Historic Places Act 1993.
 * You got me to look into it, and this was actually repealed; the categorization system is set up by the Heritage New Zealand Pouhere Taonga Act 2014. Added!
 * Consider adding the template to the top of the article under the short description in case anybody else adds references later on and they are not as careful as you've been
 * Good idea, added. - G

That's what I've got for now. Good stuff, especially for your first FLC Generalissima! Ping me when my comment has been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Addressed I think! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Comments

 * For greater context, I'd be tempted to pinch the opening sentences from the main article on the islands and add them at the start i.e. "The Chatham Islands (/ˈtʃætəm/ CHAT-əm) (Moriori: Rēkohu, lit. 'Misty Sun'; Māori: Wharekauri) are an archipelago in the Pacific Ocean about 800 km (430 nmi) east of New Zealand's South Island. They are administered as part of New Zealand. The first inhabitants, the Moriori, suffered disease outbreaks......."
 * Added. - G
 * "A statue of Tommy Solomon" - maybe add a brief clause explaining who he was
 * Added. - G
 * "A two-story colonial house" - can I just confirm that that is the correct spelling in NZ English and not a typo? I only ask because here in the UK we spell it "storey"
 * Ooh, yep. I'm a Yank, my apologies. - G
 * "Its' construction" - no reason for that apostrophe
 * Fixed. - G
 * I would remove the line break in the description of Hunts Forge, to be consistent with all the other listings.
 * Fixed. - G
 * That's all I got. Great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Good ideas all around! Implemented. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 14:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * One thing that just occurred to me.........what is the initial order of the entries in the table based on? It's not alphabetical or in date order of construction or registration.  I might be missing something blindingly obvious but it seems completely random......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah yes! Fixed, put it by date of construction. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Dank

 * Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
 * I fixed 3 sorting problems; two entries needed sort templates, and the Notes column generally isn't sorted, so I fixed that. (It was sorting with "a" first, then "an" then "the", which isn't helpful.)
 * Checking the FLC criteria:
 * 1. I did some minor copyediting; feel free to revert. I checked sorting on all sortable nonnumeric columns and sampled the links in the tables.
 * 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
 * 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
 * 3b. The sources appear to be reliable, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any significant problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
 * 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, and it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find).
 * 4. It is navigable.
 * 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
 * 6. It is stable.
 * Assuming any leftover problems from the reviews above are dealt with: Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 00:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Initial comment: The other articles in Category:Lists of historic places in New Zealand include a column for images. I'd recommend the same here. Reywas92Talk 18:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Promoting. -- Pres N  18:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


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