Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Curtly Ambrose/archive1


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The list was promoted by User:Giants2008 10:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC).

List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Curtly Ambrose

 * Nominator(s): Zia Khan 21:45, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Curtly Ambrose, one of the finest bowler in the history of cricket, took 26 five-wickets hauls for the West Indies. This list includes his Test and ODI fifers. I've worked on the list, and I think this is now ready to become one of the best wiki-list since this meets the FLC criteria. Look forward to comments/suggestions. Cheers, Zia Khan 21:45, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Support ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 06:14, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Support &mdash; Vensatry (Ping me)  06:46, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Comments
 * Image captions:
 * "Curtly Ambrose took the most five-wicket hauls for the West Indies." Better as: "Curtly Ambrose has taken the most five-wicket hauls for the West Indies." and there are 3 links that should be added to this text.
 * Reworded the statement. I don't prefer repeat linking in the captions (have a look at this). Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "The Queen's Park Oval in the Port of Spain, where Ambrose took six Test five-wicket hauls, the most by any player at the ground." Link QPO and Port of Spain and remove "the" before the latter.
 * As above. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but see Manual of Style/Captions. Ben   Mac  Dui  20:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Still I don't think this is necessary!? Zia Khan 21:12, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It may be helpful to get some additional input here. I very much doubt this would be acceptable at FAC, but I am less familiar with FLC. Ben   Mac  Dui  14:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've linked them, cheers! Zia Khan 14:25, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Prose:
 * "only 41 bowlers have taken at least 15 five-wicket hauls" - better as - only 41 bowlers have taken 15 or more five-wicket hauls
 * Done. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "8 wickets for 45 runs against England at the Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, in April 1990;" - slightly clumsy use of a semi-colon - you could replace this with "where"
 * Done. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "against the same team" - not really, in the sense that the members of the team were surely different. "against the same opponents" would be better.
 * Done. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "Ambrose achieved his 22 five-wicket hauls at 12 grounds, " - better as - " at 12 different grounds,"
 * Done. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "His first ODI five-wicket haul came later that year" - the repetition of 'ODI" gets a bit wearing. Perhaps something like "His first five-wicket haul in this format came later that year" to break this up.
 * Changed the sentence as suggested. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "17 runs in the match which is his best performance in ODIs." - use of the present tense suggests he is still playing; the use of "which" here is slightly problematic; and it's another "ODI". I suggest "He took 5 wickets for 17 runs in the match, his best performance in One Day Internationals."
 * Changed the sentence as suggested, ODI already expanded in the 1st para. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is expanded but my concern here is that we have five short staccato sentences, three of which contain "ODI". I will take a look at this myself. Ben   Mac  Dui  20:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Zia Khan 21:12, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * "As of 2013, he is tenth overall" - "ranked tenth overall" would convey the sense better I think.
 * I think, this will be excessive. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Factual:
 * "Ambrose achieved his 22 five-wicket hauls at 12 grounds, including 11 at venues outside the West Indies." - could you check your arithmetic re this uncited assertion please? Ben   Mac  Dui  17:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You are missing the table, anyways I have provided inline ref. Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The reference is helpful of course, but could you list the 11 Test "venues outside the WI" for me, here? Ben   Mac  Dui  20:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh! fixed now. Zia Khan 21:12, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fixed the arithmetic, but the reference you have added (#16) does not seem to list only "venues outside the WI" despite the title you have given it. It may be that the title is wrong - I am not sure how the parameters of this site work. Ben   Mac  Dui  14:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed this one. Zia Khan 14:25, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The problem with "Ambrose achieved his 22 five-wicket hauls at 12 different grounds, including 11 at venues outside the West Indies" is that it still implies that he only achieved the feat at a single venue in the Windies. This is not the case and I think you need to find a simple way to avoid this confusion. Ben   Mac  Dui  15:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * What about "Ambrose achieved his 22 five-wicket hauls at 12 different grounds, including 11 at 9 different venues outside the West Indies"? Zia Khan
 * It's not the most elegant of sentences but it clarifies the issue. Ben   Mac  Dui  18:30, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Above issues resolved - Support. Ben  Mac  Dui  18:30, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. Much appreciated! Zia Khan 19:29, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support! Zia Khan 03:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
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