Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of major Super Smash Bros. for Wii U tournaments/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 30 August 2020 (UTC).

List of major Super Smash Bros. for Wii U tournaments

 * Nominator(s): The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:23, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Following the successful promotion of List of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate tournaments earlier today, I am pleased to nominate another list of Smash tournaments. Unlike Ultimate, which will still hold major tournaments in the future (pending the end of COVID-19), every major Smash for Wii U tournament to be held has been held. This list is finalized.

I've taken the lessons from the previous nomination and incorporated them into this article - sorting, centered references, not overlinking cities, the works... I think. So hopefully it'll be as smooth or smoother than the last nomination. I am still trying to source an image of the lead, though I didn't want to hold up the nomination because I might never get one; I've reached out to some people on Flickr asking them to re-license photos and haven't had any luck, but I'll look for more people to ask later this week.

I am willing to reciprocate FLC reviews if you ask (I'll also trade reviews of this nomination for GAN reviews). The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:23, 3 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Support — I would appreciate your thoughts on Featured list candidates/List of accolades received by Charlize Theron/archive1.  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  16:26, 3 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * I'd be tempted to simply move one of the existing images into the lead, probably from one of the sections that has more than one
 * "2018, the year that the next Super Smash Bros. title, Ultimate, released" => "2018, the year that the next Super Smash Bros. title, Ultimate, was released"
 * Note A isn't a complete sentence so doesn't need a full stop
 * "Entrant counts are drawn tournament brackets." => "Entrant counts are drawn from tournament brackets."
 * Think that's it from me. Great work overall! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the review. I've made all the changes except for the image. I'll do that if I can't get an image of either ZeRo or a crowd shot from one of the matches. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 01:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: There is now an image of one of the tournaments in the lead. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:31, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * - nice image, but is there any chance you could clarify what "pools matches" are in some way? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I've reworded it to remove the word "pools". It was unnecessary jargon. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:27, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:41, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Support by Lee Vilenski
I'll take a look at this article, and give some comments on how it meets the FA criteria in a little while. If you fancy doing some QPQ, I have a list of items that can be looked at here. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:32, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Is it "crossover", "cross-over" or "cross over"? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Players are eliminated from the tournament after losing two matches - perhaps actually mention it's a double elimination tournament. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Gonzalo "ZeRo" Barrios - should we not link the full term here? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Five editions of the PGR rankings were released, covering tournaments between 2015 and 2018, the year that the next Super Smash Bros. title - as this leads on, maybe "from 2015 to 2018 - the year..." Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I know you are using GEOLAND, but some things are incosistently linked... Why is New Jersey linked, but not Las Vegas? Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Entrants is quite a casual term - maybe participants? Even entries is better. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Some source names are linked. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * PGStats (11 July 2017). "PGRv4 TTS". Google Docs. Retrieved 25 July 2020. - where are these from? These don't seem particularly reliable.


 * That's all I've got. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the review . I'm not able to do the FA review tonight, but I will make sure to get to it this week. My replies are below in the order of your comments above.


 * 1) The main article uses crossover, and both articles link to List of crossovers in video games, so I've preserved that spelling.
 * 2) Done. The wording may need tweaking; any feedback is welcome.
 * 3) I've made the change. I've seen both and have no preference.
 * 4) Broke it into two sentences. How does it look now?
 * 5) My strategy was to link to cities that are small enough to have "City, State" titles, and I linked to the whole article title. I can easily change it, if you think I should.
 * I think so, I'm pretty sure the City, state format can be more for disambiguation rather than the size of the place. It's a bit of an easter egg to link to X, Y, rather than X, Y
 * 6) I changed it to competitors in the lead.
 * No, I mean the header of the tables. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 7) Fixed.
 * 8) This is the official tournament listing by PGStats, as linked to from the PGR FAQ.
 * I think this needs to be a bit better explained it just looks like a link to google docs at the moment. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 18:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Let me know if anything needs a follow-up. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 02:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I've changed the links to be city-only and added a note to explain the two Google Sheets. I'm not really thrilled at the idea of renaming entrants in the table though. The main source for that column, smash.gg, uses entrants, and it's worth noting that not everyone that entered actually participated (every event has a few no-shows). The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to follow up on this. Is everything good to go? Thanks, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 17:18, 17 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Support -- Guerillero &#124;  Parlez Moi  13:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Support – MWright96 (talk) 18:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Source review - Pass
Will do tomorrow – lots of refs! Aza24 (talk) 09:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Refs 12 and 13 both missing author and dates
 * What makes Panda Global a reliable source?
 * Link Paste (magazine), the mentions of Smashboards and Kotaku
 * That's all I got, reliability looks OK. Not a huge fan of the use of Smashboards, but given it's mostly statistical information cited from there, it's probably fine. Fix these minor things and you're good for the source review. Aza24 (talk) 05:54, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Aza24 Links and names/dates are done. Panda Global/PGStats are only used to cite the tournament listings. That their ranking is considered the gold standard is cited by "Van Allen, Eric (20 January 2018). "The Competitive Smash 4 Scene Is Anxiously Awaiting Nintendo's Next Big Move". Kotaku. Retrieved 31 July 2020.". I can probably find more sources that say the same thing (I have two in the list of Ultimate tournaments), but it's not something I'd expect to be seriously contested. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:37, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed, that reasoning is fine by me. Good work here, the rest of the reliability looks good – pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 06:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I just added a second source, from ESPN, about the Panda Global rankings being the gold standard. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:46, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Promoting. -- Pres N  20:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


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