Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of outlying islands of Scotland/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 15:18, 10 August 2010.

List of outlying islands of Scotland

 * Nominator(s): Ben   Mac  Dui  19:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because it completes the main lists of Scottish islands and I believe meets the criteria. Ben  Mac  Dui  19:07, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment—no dab links, but the external link to http://www.landfood.unimelb.edu.au/ doesn't go where it ought to go. Ucucha 19:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Ben   Mac  Dui  19:33, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Ucucha 19:37, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. I wasn't sure if I would be able to judge 3(a), but the user has clearly demonstrated enough knowledge of the subject matter to remove any doubt there. The short lead can be explained by the fact that the introduction to the table is quite long, and in my view that's the correct approach. An excellent piece of work! --WFC-- 10:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Ben   Mac  Dui  20:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I will list them below and comment individually:
 * Comment. Why there is no references in some notes? Ruslik_ Zero 17:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Various other definitions are used in the Scottish context. For example, the General Register Office for Scotland define an island as "a mass of land surrounded by water, separate from the Scottish mainland" but although they include islands linked by bridges etc., this is not clear from this definition. Haswell-Smith (2004) uses "an Island is a piece of land or group of pieces of land which is entirely surrounded by water at Lowest Astronomical Tide and to which there is no permanent means of dry access". This is widely agreed to be unhelpful as it consciously excludes bridged islands.
 * The GRO is cited as a reference. There are no page numbers to cite. The information is provided under the heading "Appendix". H-Smith's is in the Preface page xi. I can add this easily enough.
 * Now done. Ben   Mac  Dui  07:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ Encyclopædia Britannica (1978) says: Hebrides – group of islands of the west coast of Scotland extending in an arc between 55.35 and 58.30 N and 5.26 and 8.40 W." This includes Gigha, St Kilda and everything up to Cape Wrath – although not North Rona.
 * If you think this needs a page number I can add it.
 * ^ When inhabited, these islands had strong cultural ties to the Hebrides, but they are quite distinct from the Outer Hebrides geologically and Haswell-Smith (2004) pp. 313–331 lists St Kilda in "Section 9: The Atlantic Outliers".
 * This is referenced within the note. Do you think this information needs to be moved to a separate ref?
 * Now done. Ben   Mac  Dui  18:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ Aird an Runair, North Uist approximately Mean High Water Springs ETRS89 57°36’10.42010"N 7°32’56.63226"W, grid reference NF 68686,70560. Distance to Rockall approximately 366.966km (228.022mi) (198.146nmi).
 * The first sentence is simply a statement. The second is, I admit, an unreferenced calculation, albeit hardly controversial. I'll see if anything definitive is available to corroborate this, but I don't recall ever seeing anything.
 * Amended and ref added. Note that this now includes examples of the the grid ref. links referred to below. Ben   Mac  Dui  08:03, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ Note that the Ordnance Survey maps mark the height above sea level of a high point on most islands, but in a small number of cases, this may not be the highest point.
 * This is a caveat and I don't see how it could be referenced.
 * Indicates the presence of a lighthouse on Ordnance Survey maps.
 * This is a statement and I don't see how it could be referenced any further given that the OS is listed as a main reference.
 * ^ As the name implies there are two small islets separated at higher stages of the tide. The smaller islet is circa 0.25 ha.
 * This is a statement and I don't see how it could be referenced unless by adding a grid reference.
 * ^ The Ordnance Survey indicate the presence of a ruined chapel.
 * This is a statement and I don't see how it could be referenced any further given that the OS is listed as a main reference, unless by adding a grid reference.
 * ^ The two islands are connected to one another and the mainland at low tides and were probably inhabited at some point in the past.
 * The first statement is clear from an OS map. A quick search turns up nothing to confirm the second statement, but it is inconceivable they were not inhabited at some point in the past. I will take a longer look.
 * Done. The Gaelic name is a clue - see also Innse Gall. Ben   Mac  Dui  08:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ None of the very small islets are named by the Ordnance Survey.
 * I don't see how it could be referenced any further, unless by adding a grid reference.

First pass of replies - I'll take some time to look at the details asap. Ben  Mac  Dui  20:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Second pass complete - awaiting further comments. Ben   Mac  Dui  08:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Support good list Sandman888 (talk) Latest FLC 16:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Many thanks also. Ben   Mac  Dui  20:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:45, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Ben   Mac  Dui  09:37, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Support. I do not see any other problems. Ruslik_ Zero 06:34, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * OK - many thanks. Ben   Mac  Dui  07:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support as ever, a pleasure working with a dedicated and committed editor who is prepared to listen to criticism and take it positively. Good work.  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


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