Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of premiers of Victoria/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 12:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC).

List of premiers of Victoria

 * Nominator(s): GMH Melbourne (talk) 02:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because it is a list containing so much information and history about Australian/ Victorian politics. There are very few FAs and FLs in the Victorian Politics wikiproject. (peer review) GMH Melbourne (talk) 02:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

 * Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Most of them are fine, but the three sub-headers (Took office, etc.) need the !scope=col, and the Term of office cell should use !scope=colgroup instead.
 * Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g.  becomes  . If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead. Along with that, you currently have two cells per row set as the header- the Premier cell should have a | instead of a !.
 * Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. -- Pres N  03:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Done –––– GMH Melbourne (talk) 01:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment
 * Consider moving the Electoral district/constituency to its own column. The name column is quite cluttered right now.
 * Consider mentioning that Allan is only the second woman to hold the post.
 * If you make the table sortable then List of premiers of Victoria by time in office can just be redirected here as you can get the same information by sorting on the relevant column.
 * Don't see any problems with the prose. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:54, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @MPGuy2824 Thank you for your suggestions. The reason I put the constituencies in the name column was to be consistent with the List of prime ministers of Australia. I am happy to change it, let me know your thoughts. I have now added the fact Jacinta Allan is the 2nd female premier of vic (this edit).
 * As discussed in the peer review, making the table sortable isn't possible due to vertical cell mergers with the monarch/governor column and also for when premiers have served multiple, separate, non-consecutive, terms. GMH Melbourne (talk) 02:10, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The table in the List of prime ministers of Australia is sortable and is a recent FL (from December 2022).
 * Also, to me the governor seems like a ceremonial office and not particularly relevant to this particular list. Maybe the governor/monarch column can be removed. Please take the opinion of other folk before doing this though. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * In relation to the List of prime ministers of Australia table, when you go and sort the table, it kind of stuffs it up. I have also just discovered vertical merges around the 'Election' columns which will cause further issues if made sortable. I have tried to seek consensus in the past to remove the column without the discussion gaining any traction, I will try again in the articles talk page. GMH Melbourne (talk) 02:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * By the way, List of prime ministers of the United Kingdom and List of prime ministers of New Zealand have the constituency within the name column as well, so there is precedent. Regarding the governor and monarch column, I think its important to keep the governors because the governor directly appoints the premier. I wouldn't mind removing the monarch column though. Steelkamp (talk) 03:18, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Support

 * Looks good to me. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  18:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Comments

 * Can the monarch column be changed back to how it was before Special:Diff/1211202532? It looked better and more consistent back then. Steelkamp (talk) 03:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have reverted the change. I ask Migs005 to explain why they have made sweeping changes to a page at FLC without discussing with other editors, particularly when the changes have obvious problems like desynchronising governors and premiers. – Teratix ₵ 16:36, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I was not aware that the article's at FLC. Comments on the changes noted. No issues with the revert for me. Migs005 (talk) 00:16, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. I didn't realise this had been fixed. That was my only comment. Article looks good now. Steelkamp (talk) 13:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Source review passed; promoting. -- Pres N  02:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


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